Kilofix Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Friend wants to get into 30K, possibly Iron Warriors and is looking for fluff regarding them. I've read all the Tallarn novels, and various other shorts like Iron Within, etc. But the problem with that, is that it's all one big arc in my head now. Was there any one particular novel, novella, or short that stands out, that I could recommend to my friend? He's familiar with the general 30K premise, Horus, Isstvan, Battle of Terra, etc. but hasn't actually read any of the HH books. Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323243-best-iron-warriors-30k-novel-novella-or-short-story/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrieker Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Exterminatus was good for the Perturabo descriptions, gives him a lot of depth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323243-best-iron-warriors-30k-novel-novella-or-short-story/#findComment-4420804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I'd add Ironfire to the list, set after The Iron Within. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323243-best-iron-warriors-30k-novel-novella-or-short-story/#findComment-4421091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Angel Exterminatus. No question about that Ironfire is a nice short, but merely filler Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323243-best-iron-warriors-30k-novel-novella-or-short-story/#findComment-4421162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I'd push him on The Iron Within first off, particularly if you have a copy of the anthology to lend him. It's short, it's good writing, it's got siegecraft, a decent look at the IW philosophy and the pain of betrayal. Above all, Dantioch's a badass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323243-best-iron-warriors-30k-novel-novella-or-short-story/#findComment-4421212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH79 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I'd push him on The Iron Within first off, particularly if you have a copy of the anthology to lend him. It's short, it's good writing, it's got siegecraft, a decent look at the IW philosophy and the pain of betrayal. Above all, Dantioch's a badass. Seconded, The Iron Within is an awesome short story and Dantioch a great lead character, would be nice to have his backstory fleshed out one day but i think we're prob past that point now. As everyone else has already stated too, Angel Exterminatus has some great moments and for me Perturabo in this novel is a very likable character. Reading The Crimson Fist before Exterminatus would be advisible too as it will put into context certain events / characters circumstances. I hope McNeil returns to the Iron Warriors again at some point in the future! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323243-best-iron-warriors-30k-novel-novella-or-short-story/#findComment-4421338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Angel Exterminatus. No question about that Ironfire is a nice short, but merely filler "Filler" in the context of the series, maybe, though I wouldn't describe many stories as clear filler as they all contribute something or bridge gaps. The question wasn't about what's essential to the series, however. It was about what stories depict the Iron Warriors during the GC/HH well. Ironfire shows the Iron Warriors' pragmatism and obsession with siege warfare in a way that few other stories bar The Iron Within do. It adds a lot to their overall, changing character as the Heresy progresses. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323243-best-iron-warriors-30k-novel-novella-or-short-story/#findComment-4421481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 Thanks all. I'll start him on Iron Within. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323243-best-iron-warriors-30k-novel-novella-or-short-story/#findComment-4421842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Isn't Ironfire about the Iron Warrior dude who was defeated by Dantioch in "Iron Within" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323243-best-iron-warriors-30k-novel-novella-or-short-story/#findComment-4421843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Yeah. It's another case of "he died only to come back later" that is the Horus Heresy series. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323243-best-iron-warriors-30k-novel-novella-or-short-story/#findComment-4422082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedarkprincesnun Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Angel exterminatus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323243-best-iron-warriors-30k-novel-novella-or-short-story/#findComment-4422749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Tallarn: Executioner and Ironclad! I think these are stunning depictions of the legion, from human and from LA points of view. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323243-best-iron-warriors-30k-novel-novella-or-short-story/#findComment-4424690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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