Thedarkprincesnun Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Hey guys I've never used transfers before yesterday but i am the only one who found the word bearers ones especially the blocks of writing ones to be bad? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323324-so-the-bac-transfers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Hey guys I've never used transfers before yesterday but i am the only one who found the word bearers ones especially the blocks of writing ones to be bad? Bad in what sense ? Bad to apply ? Bad quality ? I've heard that you're supposed to get a better finish with a product called micro-sol but I can't really say much more. I'm sure you can find loads of tips in this very forum :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323324-so-the-bac-transfers/#findComment-4423602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedarkprincesnun Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 Hey guys I've never used transfers before yesterday but i am the only one who found the word bearers ones especially the blocks of writing ones to be bad? Bad in what sense ? Bad to apply ? Bad quality ? I've heard that you're supposed to get a better finish with a product called micro-sol but I can't really say much more. I'm sure you can find loads of tips in this very forum :) To give you a idea of what i meanI was going to apply one of the blocks of armour writing which you get on the sheet to my contemptor i am pretty sure i did everything right but as i was brushing the water over the transfer it ripped on me luckily i manage to salvage it but i lost a large part of the block in the process. Are the FW ones of a better quality? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323324-so-the-bac-transfers/#findComment-4423623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Galfridus Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 FW ones tend to be thinner. Better quality finish decals tend to be thinner so they conform to the surface easier but rip more easily. I've never brushed water over a transfer. I use a brush to soak the paper of the decal on my palette by placing a soaked brush next to the decal but never on it. After 30 seconds the decal is loose and i use a brush to carefully lift it. I also use microsol and mircoset. One I brush onto the area before applying the transfer. The other I very carefully dab with a very soft brush over the applied decal. Both significantly soften the transfer itself and once applied even just looking at it funny before it has fully cured will cause issues. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323324-so-the-bac-transfers/#findComment-4423634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedarkprincesnun Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 Ah thanks im wondering if i maybe brushed too much water on and that's where i went wrong as someone who is new to using decals its rather confusing lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323324-so-the-bac-transfers/#findComment-4423642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 I like them. :) I use Tamiya Mr. Mark Softer and they apply quite well... I guess you may want to apply setter and softer before and after applying the decal and maybe use cotton buds to take away the extra liquid. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323324-so-the-bac-transfers/#findComment-4423651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedarkprincesnun Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 I like them. :) I use Tamiya Mr. Mark Softer and they apply quite well... I guess you may want to apply setter and softer before and after applying the decal and maybe use cotton buds to take away the extra liquid. Thanks for the advice i have no idea why that never occurred to me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323324-so-the-bac-transfers/#findComment-4423669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovidius Incertus Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 I haven't used a brush to soften decals; cut them out as closely as possible around the image, then soak in water until the transfer slides off the backer. Tweezers are very important. I've always found this video by Awesome Paintjob to be exemplary for applying decals. Decal application starts at 5:20 in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mltbxDRt7uw Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323324-so-the-bac-transfers/#findComment-4423729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 There's a vid on WarhammerTV, GW's YouTube channel that covers transfers. It might even be the end of the How to paint Ultramarines video... Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323324-so-the-bac-transfers/#findComment-4424020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 If you have not gloss coated your minis before applying the decals you're going to have a hard time and the transfer/decals will indeed have a propensity to tear and rip. On a rough surface the decals stick... with a gloss coat you should find the decals a little more workable. After they have dried going back over the model with a coat of flat varnish will help better protect and seal the decals. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323324-so-the-bac-transfers/#findComment-4424501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedarkprincesnun Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 If you have not gloss coated your minis before applying the decals you're going to have a hard time and the transfer/decals will indeed have a propensity to tear and rip. On a rough surface the decals stick... with a gloss coat you should find the decals a little more workable. After they have dried going back over the model with a coat of flat varnish will help better protect and seal the decals.I did that the transfer ripped when i was trying to get it off the blue sheet Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323324-so-the-bac-transfers/#findComment-4425204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 the transfer ripped when i was trying to get it off the blue sheet That sounds to me like it needs a longer soak in water then! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323324-so-the-bac-transfers/#findComment-4425234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
okonomiyakimarine Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I am so going to steal that vexilla color scheme of yours! If I may Also i'd love to know where that base is from or how you did it? Do you have a WIP thread for your BaC box? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323324-so-the-bac-transfers/#findComment-4426430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucio Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Personally for transfers, I ignore all the usual advice.I cut out the transfer, pinch it between finger and thumb, hold it into my water pot for about 30 seconds, then slide it off onto a finger tip. From my finger tip, I gently apply it to the dry model surface.Once in place, apply water to help reposition it, then coat with Lahiman medium.Very rarely tear them this way, and I'm a ham fisted fool! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323324-so-the-bac-transfers/#findComment-4427447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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