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So while i was initially set on word bearers i am being tempted by the scions of ultramar so sons of guilliman and lorgar you each have a chance to sway me to your side. I only want to do one or the other as it will also end up being my 40k army so heres your chance to sway me.

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I'm in a similar boat in that I really like the ultras as well as night lords.

 

If you want something that can do well in 40k then pick Ultramarines. Judging from your posts in the news and announcements threads chaos space marines are the supreme leaders of suck who have almost no way to compete and vanilla marines are waay better in every single regard, which I agree with.

 

Aside from that what do you like about each one? I can't really give you much till I know what you like about each one.

 

Do you like the idea of religious zealots in power armor, not giving a an about their losses only that the mission of complete conversion of te enemy to te dark gods? Do you want to strike back against that hypocrite fool, the emperor? To use the complete power

Honestly, sacrifice two models to test schemes, if you considered all the information (fluff and rules etc) and come to a draw, painting the models will help to decide which works for you.

 

Cheers,

Jono

Il be honest the main things which turn me off the bearers are

Forced to take 2 hqs while i get this from a fluff point of view it really limits you in small point games

I already have a traitor army in the form of my 40k death guard army just need to wait to get rules for plague marines.

 

If i go Ultramarines id do my own chapter within the legion who would have white shoulder pads red trim but still blue armour.

Also a con for me for the legion rules is what happens when your warlord dies lol

 

@theonemarshall the reason the csm book annoys me is because it tends to punish me for trying to field lists which go by the fluff lol

Assuming you play with some decent people there's nothing stopping you running your Word Bearer army list without the second HQ choice; or even running them using the Blackshields rules. Keep in mind that whilst you're limited by the second HQ the forces you can field on account of their RoWs (podded Gal Vorbak as troops, for example) can hit like a speeding train.

 

Ultramarines are pretty neat in 30k, though, and are visually a fantastic army. I did love how they pulled so much from the old Collected Visions when it came to designing them.

Il be honest the main things which turn me off the bearers are

Forced to take 2 hqs while i get this from a fluff point of view it really limits you in small point games

That's why my bro runs Erebus in small games, he counts as both a praetor, diabolist, AND a chaplain.

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