thevoodooman Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 So I'm getting a box of kataphrons, my question is what do I build them as? I've got an Icarus array onager, haywire vanguard, 2 shooty kastellans and some sniper Rangers. Any suggestions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323649-to-breach-or-destroy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlson793 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Since you've already got some haywire going, try out the Destroyers. My preference is Grav over Plasma, but then again I'm the guy who'd probably end up killing the entire 6 wound squad with one turn of Gets Hot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323649-to-breach-or-destroy/#findComment-4434447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Gravaphrons are intensely useful for me, but I have yet to play a game against horde type opponents. I have yet to use plasma for the same reason. My very first game playing Skitarii I put plasma on vanguard in my warlord's unit and all of them died within one game turn from getting hot, so until I can run a war convocation I'll probably steer clear of plasma. Having said that, plasma is extremely versatile, since it can damage anything shy of AV14 but also can obliterate crowds of weakly armored infantry. It glances less reliably than haywire but penetrates more reliably up to AV12. I think I'm talking myself into running plasma next time I play... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323649-to-breach-or-destroy/#findComment-4434462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevoodooman Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 I think it's torsion cannons or heavy grav, math hammer somewhere will tell me which wins but guy says heavy grav just for more shots Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323649-to-breach-or-destroy/#findComment-4434479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicHat Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Grav. Compliments the rest of your force the best. Although, my own plans include 12 Kataphrons: 4 breachers, magnetized arc/torsion. Prefers arc, mainly for range here. 8 destroyers, 4 with grav and 4 magnetized to have grav/plasma. Grav, arc and torsion are all fairly new and might change with next edition/codex, so having the option to switch them out is useful, to say the least. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323649-to-breach-or-destroy/#findComment-4434484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akrim Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I partial to an even mix of Grav and Plas on my destroyers. I tend to run my Dominus with them so he can heal the odd plasma burn. The flamers are nice too. I second magnetizing the Destroyers main gun. It's very easy. Heck you could even do it with just blue tack as its a fairly tight fit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323649-to-breach-or-destroy/#findComment-4435184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmaleron Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Grav all the way has based on my experience it is surprisingly versatile and most importantly helps deal with those nasty MCs ( Riptides, Wraithknights ect.) That are so popular nowadays. They are also pretty damn good against Vehicles as well, roll two sixes when trying to penetrate their armor and you have destroyed a three-hull point vehicle, have seen 2 squads of these bring down an imperial knight in one turn. Against swarms of Infantry thanks to the volume of shots alone they're not completely useless, this is reinforced especially if they take flamers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323649-to-breach-or-destroy/#findComment-4435705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Plasma if in a War Convocation, Grav if not. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323649-to-breach-or-destroy/#findComment-4436205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevoodooman Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 Well I'm buying them tomorrow. 3 grav kataphrons and 2 kastellans with all the guns Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323649-to-breach-or-destroy/#findComment-4436874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlson793 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Well I'm buying them tomorrow. 3 grav kataphrons and 2 kastellans with all the guns Recommend magnetizing the Kastelans for most bang-for-your-buck. Just some green stuff in the hands, a little trimming on the arm piece so it can slide into the hands, a little drilling on the shoulder mount and weapons, then add your magnets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323649-to-breach-or-destroy/#findComment-4437038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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