Legacy of Russ 6: Wolf Trap (Discussion)

[Fang_Guard23]

Ok, first off Happy 4th of July my American wolf brothers and sisters.

Ok the laest in the legacy of russ book is out and i just finished it.

 

 

 

1) Egil Ironwolf defeated the greater daemon of Nurgal with the help of the remaining Champions so Fenris.

2) The Bloodthirster Infurnace is gone, but not by the hands of Harald Deathwolf or Sven Bloodhowl. The Iron Captain fired a lance from his ship into the bunker killing the daemon and a few wolves

3) Blackmane is still cleansing the Miajlnar, but two of his blood claw packs have turned wulfen and have merged into a murderpack. Captain Stern is on his way to help secure the fort.

4) Egil has returned to the surface of Midgardia to find that Battle Leader Conran is dead from the crusade fleet orbital bombardment. After Egil communicates with his flag ship he will resume his search for the Great Wolf.

5) THE REDMAWS HAVE RETURNED HOME!!!

 

[TheWolfLord]

Just been released today and the following has happened.

 

 

On the Starfort Mjalnar

 

Ragnar and his Wolf Guard have defeated the first ambush and have continued towards the command deck.

 

The Inquisitor de Mornay has requested reinforcements from Stern as he suspects the corruption level will increase and because he doesn't want to be surrounded by Ragnars Wolves who are on the verge of changing to Wulfen.

 

2 entire packs of Bloodclaws have turned to Wulfen but remain sentient and are obeying Ragnars orders

 

They are continuing to fight towards the command bridge but as suspected the levels of corruption are growing.

 

The World Wolf Lair, Svellgard

 

As Infurnace flies towards the battlement Sven orders his Bloodguard to leave him as he knows it's a fight they can't win, they refuse and are also joined by Harald and his Riders of Morkai.

 

They plan to hold the Blood Thirster while one of the World Wolfs Claws (planet to orbital ordinance) are fired at their position.

 

The fight ensues and they are barely scratching the Daemon, the Daemon is killing the Wolf Guard easily. Suddenly a lance strike from the Iron Hands ship is fired, there is just enough of a warning to allow Sven and his Bloodguard to jump pack away carrying Harald and a few remaining Death Wolves.

 

The World Wolfs Lair is destroyed killing 2-3 dozen Space Wolves too.

 

The Iron Captain is computing an orbital bombardment to finish the Daemons and Wolves off (he is taking pleasure in the death of the Wolves) when he's contacted by an Ultramarine Captain to say there is to be no more bombardments and they will assault the planet, this will allow them to judge which side the Space Wolves are on but warns the Iron Captain the Wolves will be furious at his actions.

 

Midgardia.

 

Egil Iron Wolf and his forces kill the Nurgle daemons and Herald in the tunnels, the spores released by the Herald have badly damaged their armour so they decide to head back to the surface to see why there is an emergency beacon from one of his Wolf Guard in the Magma Gates.

 

They travel up and discover that Midgardia has been fire bombed and billions of people have been killed.

 

The end.

 

The Iron Captain is calculating the details of the planetary assault onto Svellgard but is disturbed by another fleet translating into the system, the final line is

 

They were home.

 

[Frater Cornelius]

The main question is who is "They". Damn pronoun game.

[Fang_Guard23]

The main question is who is "They". Damn pronoun game.

The Redmaws, have returned to the Fenris system and I think the entire company have turned wulfen.

[Frater Cornelius]

Well, hopefully this will mark a turning point. I don't want to see the Chapter decimated.

[Runefyre]

Well, hopefully this will mark a turning point. I don't want to see the Chapter decimated.

Amen.

[TheWolfLord]

I don't particularly want the majority of the chapter to be made up of Wulfen either.

 

Ragnars company must be under 100 for actual marines with the losses sustained and the packs transformed.

 

Svens and Haralds companies have taken a huge mauling and lost another large chunk in this instalment.

 

Egils and Logan's have sustained huge casualties under Midgardia.

 

I think it's time for some retribution though, if Sven or Harald don't kill The Iron Captain I'd be amazed.

 

Egil is furious at the destruction of Midgardia and Brans inclusion is likely to cause issues.

 

The remaining 2 instalments aren't going to change things around for the Wolves, I'd imagine by the end of this series all of the Lords will be in place to start building allies within the crusade. Then Stern and de Mornay will confirm the Wolves are loyal and unmask the Changling to show that the Dark Angels have been played.

 

The crusade fleet will move to the Wolves side just as Magnus returns leading a similarly large chaos fleet to setup the next major campaign book.

[MaveriK]

I'm more concerned about the aftermath. Regardless of the outcome, this has definitely wounded the wolves to the point of an almost isolation with the imperium. A definite rift between the founding legions.

 

What do you do now with a chapter that mostly gone feral? Maybe Redmaw will teach the wulfen to turn back into astartes? maybe the Grey Knights will use the wolves from now on as an elite shock attack force? Well logically speaking that Iron Captain is gonna get it, as will the Dark Angels. I honestly hope they get humiliated by their actions in front of the other chapters once this is all over. The Ultramarines have somewhat redeemed themselves by being a voice of reason with the Iron Captain. But I'm dsappointed nobody outside of the DA's lynch mob went to aid the wolves. You know like the Cadia, Wolf Blade of Terra, Salamanders, Raven Guard and Blood Angels.

 

On a side note I wonder how this event will effect future novels. Isn't Blood from Asaheim, Stormcaller missing one more part? I'd assume those two books happened before Warzone Fenris.... or is it even canon now?

[Guest Triszin]

Won't be able to read part six into either later tonight or tomorrow. But really not liking how much damage has been done to the wolves. It's literally ridiculous, every world, and defense besides fenris in the supposed 2nd greatest fortress system besides terra is reduced to rubble.

 

Unless they announce actual wolf numbers, starting each great company was equivalent to a standard codex chapter I will not be happy

[Fang_Guard23]

with the redmaws return​ it'll put a problem into Iron Captain Terrek's plans. Since he had to alter his deployment because he considered the wolves to be hostile, now he has to work with the Redmaws fleet arriving. The warp was making it extra hard for the Bran's company to arrive, because they knew the threat of the Redmaw's to their plans

[Leif Bearclaw]

Well, hopefully this will mark a turning point. I don't want to see the Chapter decimated.

I think that's already happened. Of course decimation is actually really light losses for 40k fluff...

Also, does every one of these boil down to 'yet more Wolves go Wulfen'? Getting kinda sick of this. Both the excruciatingly drawn out nature of it, and every 'advancement' reeking of the same 'lol Imperium loses' Grimderp mentality that has blighted 40k fluff for the last few editions.

Unless they announce actual wolf numbers, starting each great company was equivalent to a standard codex chapter I will not be happy

Which is impossible, seeing as they've given us numbers for almost half the GCs now. They're barely above Codex Company strength before the gutting and plot BS inflicted on them recently. Unless they completely forget the losses sustained (not exactly unprecedented from GW, granted), they seem to have already messed up-ed the Wolves, and we haven't even got to the finale yet.

[Frater Cornelius]

They could've given them some successors to call on in these cases. Right now they are trying to raise the stakes in a rather lazy fashion, imminent doom. There are plenty of other ways to make things exciting without having to kill off half the Space Wolves Chapter for teh lulz.

[TheWolfLord]

In a recent interview the author has confirmed Warzone Fenris is the start of a major shakeup of 40k, not quite AOS levels but plot changing.

 

He mentioned there will be consequences and as a result he expects lore to be changed in rulebooks and codices.

 

Warzone Fenris is set before The Black Crusade but close to it.

 

We know none of the Wolf Lords or named characters are allowed to die and it looks like Fenris will remain untouched.

 

It all depends if GW plan for the Space Wolves to be at the heart of The defence of Cadia. It would be strange to reintroduce the Wulfen and the 13th and then leave them out of the campaign that introduced them in the first place. To involve the Space Wolves there needs to be some mechanic to bolster their numbers. The only reasonable one would be the return of Russ leading 100's of unchanged 13th company or a way to stabilise the Wulfen mutation and allow them to change back.

 

If Space Wolves aren't to be a major chapter in any Black Crusade campaign then the loses sustained really don't matter in the grand scheme of things, they would simply be retconned at some point in the future.

 

I'm not going to criticise the writer, I'm enjoying the series and given the author was told the beginning and the outcome he's trying to create a meaningful event that moves the story on without killing any major characters. If it wasn't happening to my Wolves I'd be enjoying it a lot more of course.

[helterskelter]

I'm beginning to expect a 3 primarch Duke out.

Wolves have been battered beyond belief, if the redmaw arrives, it's not going to be a full company, and in the face of existing threats 50-80 extra bodie isn't going to do a fat lot.

We know the DA have been "legion building"

We know there's a heresy era company of wolves about which has to be bigger than a 40k company

We know magnus has perpetual beef and tzeentch are there.

Handbags at dawn people I'm telling you

[NightHowler]

I'm not going to criticise the writer, I'm enjoying the series and given the author was told the beginning and the outcome he's trying to create a meaningful event that moves the story on without killing any major characters. If it wasn't happening to my Wolves I'd be enjoying it a lot more of course.

Then I'll criticize the author for you. He may write well but he has demonstrated ignorance of lore that has existed since at least 4th edition; he writes like he's absolutely enjoying the destruction of our chapter; he lacks the creativity to create dramatic threat through any means but killing ever greater and greater numbers of our chapter and destroying all of our system's defenses; and I for one hope to Russ and the Allfather that in the next book the author gets sucked into his own book, eaten alive by a great unclean one, and then pooped out the other end still breathing but busting at the seems with every foul disease known to Pappa Nurgle.

 

**spits on the ground to get even the mention of that author out of my mouth**

[Fang_Guard23]

 

I'm not going to criticise the writer, I'm enjoying the series and given the author was told the beginning and the outcome he's trying to create a meaningful event that moves the story on without killing any major characters. If it wasn't happening to my Wolves I'd be enjoying it a lot more of course.

Then I'll criticize the author for you. He may write well but he has demonstrated ignorance of lore that has existed since at least 4th edition; he writes like he's absolutely enjoying the destruction of our chapter; he lacks the creativity to create dramatic threat through any means but killing ever greater and greater numbers of our chapter and destroying all of our system's defenses; and I for one hope to Russ and the Allfather that in the next book the author gets sucked into his own book, eaten alive by a great unclean one, and then pooped out the other end still breathing but busting at the seems with every foul disease known to Pappa Nurgle.

 

**spits on the ground to get even the mention of that author out of my mouth**

 

no need to rip the author a new one, he is actually doing alright, the wolves have always been on their own and have always defended there home. He actually cares about the wolves. I'm actually liking this shake up, it certainly brings in some interesting developments, I hope they release a Bran redmaw formation. The author says that the space wolves are his most favorite chapter, What doesn't kill us, makes us stronger.

[NightHowler]

Good grief. I'd hate to see how he treats his least favorite chapter.

 

"Oh boy. I really love the space wolves so much! I'll kill off fully half their forces, burn an entire planet, destroy all their most powerful defenses, cripple a named character (maybe two!). And leave them without the numbers or resources to be of any use to anyone for hundreds of years! I love them so much!"

 

He may love us, but he can take his love elsewhere.

 

Oh, and spinal injuries don't kill people but they don't make them stronger either.

 

Ok, I realize I'm coming off harsh, but not nearly as harsh as the treatment my chapter is getting. This author still has a small chance to redeem himself, but unless he brings back not only the Redmaws, but also every chapter that's ever walked to the 13th stone and kicks off the motherfething Wolf-Time with the return of Russ and the entire 13th company, I will likely consider this author un-redeemed.

[MaveriK]

We also need to keep in mind, since all of this is a prelude to the actual 13th black crusade, then the previous 13th black crusade and the events that took place years ago, could potentially be redone differently, from what we all once knew.

 

My only pet peeve is the lack of Storm Claws, Grey Slayers and Gate Powered Rune Priest. I can't fault the author entirely, but I do question the person or persons who approved the written draft to make it into a fictional reality.

 

Good story telling doesn't always require decimation of a chapter or senseless death and bolter porn. But great storytelling involves intrigue, character development and twist on the same levels as great epics such as Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones etc etc.

 

This war zone Fenris feels more like a cheap action movie. The trailers were better but it was also only best parts of the movie...

[Guest]

Good grief. I'd hate to see how he treats his least favorite chapter.

 

"Oh boy. I really love the space wolves so much! I'll kill off fully half their forces, burn an entire planet, destroy all their most powerful defenses, cripple a named character (maybe two!). And leave them without the numbers or resources to be of any use to anyone for hundreds of years! I love them so much!"

 

He may love us, but he can take his love elsewhere.

 

Oh, and spinal injuries don't kill people but they don't make them stronger either.

 

Ok, I realize I'm coming off harsh, but not nearly as harsh as the treatment my chapter is getting. This author still has a small chance to redeem himself, but unless he brings back not only the Redmaws, but also every chapter that's ever walked to the 13th stone and kicks off the motherfething Wolf-Time with the return of Russ and the entire 13th company, I will likely consider this author un-redeemed.

 

Its one book feel for the DA and Gav :(...

 

But yeah as much as I like dead Space Wolves, losses like that cant just be replaced in a few years... 

[TheWolfLord]

This author has nothing to do with the Curse of the Wulfen or the lack of a proper 13th company. He's simply picked up where Chrse of the Wulfen left off and if anything the losses in this series are less than those inflicted during CotW.

 

He's also been told where the story needs to be at the end of the series so again he can't be blamed for the damage being done to the Wolves as its where GW wants the Wolves to be going into the next chapter.

 

It was his decision to have the fortresses destroyed, Midgardia burned etc but these changes don't hurt the Wolves as much as the loss of man power.

 

Remember if this is just the start of something larger and more destructive we may have gotten off lightly compared to what they do to other Chapter and factions moving forward. I don't like reading about Wolves being killed full stop and even more so in such large numbers but I'm guessing this is leading somewhere important and personally I think it'll be the return of Russ who will boost the numbers somehow.

[Charlo]

Damn, it's going crazy.

 

I wouldn't worry about Wolf losses.

 

13th company will come back, Russ will come back and they'll figure out a way to replenish the legion.

[Fang_Guard23]

Damn, it's going crazy.

 

I wouldn't worry about Wolf losses.

 

13th company will come back, Russ will come back and they'll figure out a way to replenish the legion.

like what happened during the time of rebuilding after the great scouring, many warriors flocked to Asaheim to replenish the space wolves ranks.

 

Don't worry the wolves won't be too crippled. They haven't even awoken the warriors that sleep below the fang

[Sturm Moonwolf]

Ha, be funny when Russ shows up with a few thousand Legion VI'ers and tells Bjorn I was gone for a day and look what happened...

[TheWolfLord]

Ha, be funny when Russ shows up with a few thousand Legion VI'ers and tells Bjorn I was gone for a day and look what happened...

I'm really expecting Russ to come back in Wulfen form.

 

I'm basing that on a few subtle hints from Lady Atia when discussing the return of Daemon Primarchs.

 

Wulfen hunt Daemons but no force in the current Imperium is powerful enough to rival a Daemon Primarch, maybe a Wulfen Primarch would be a match?

 

Also it would give Wulfen legitimacy if Russ came back in Wulfen form, kicked the butt of Magnus and saved the Imperium just as it seemed all was lost. Nobody would argue that a loyal Primarch and the Emperors own son was a mutant so they'd struggle to touch the Wulfen too.

[DanPesci]

 

Ha, be funny when Russ shows up with a few thousand Legion VI'ers and tells Bjorn I was gone for a day and look what happened...

 

 

Wulfen hunt Daemons but no force in the current Imperium is powerful enough to rival a Daemon Primarch, maybe a Wulfen Primarch would be a match?

 

 

 

 

personally id hate to see russ transformed into a wulfen, as it would show a lack of control on his part. However id be happy to see him turn up at the front of a few thousand legionaries/13th company

 

I wouldnt be surprised with all the nods towards the redmaws coming back, if they simply made brans transformed state into something that for some reason can fight off a daemon primarch (itd be daft...but then all the current fluff hasnt exactly been 'subtle')