Generalripphook Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I just dislike cyan so between the two, purple. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-4542253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 Fair enough. It should've actually been azure to begin with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-4542256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Purple is associated with the Asklepian Order, which would make the warband heavy on gene-mod. Purple-and-gold, genemod-heavy chaos warband just screams Emperor's Children to me. More blue, though (and a bluer color, this cyan just looks off) I'd be fine with: keep all the bling of the Bogatyrs. Â Also, I'm thinking I made a wrong choice volunteering Asaev for blackshieldhood. He's pretty much the only written Warbringer character who's not an ass. The IX needs heroes. At the same time, he'd make a good Loken/Morturg-analog as a protagonist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-4542390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Fair enough. I'm thinking I might take a less noble Warbringer who becomes head of the Shadow Hands by accident. Â Plus, Asaev gives us lots to play with as his character progresses; whether he wrestles with Kozja's independence and refusal to return to the Emperor, or goes along with it. Â I definitely want to lean away from EC-alikes Edited October 24, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-4542393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 "T'was in the fires of Revelation that our fates were broken. Daer'dd was weak. Icarion is mad. The Suzerains are fools. This Imperium is collapsing, there is no use trying to save it. Only one goal shall lead us now, one we have always bore: we shall bring the Storm. We had been sons once. Sons of Jurvik, of Obsailes, of Panslavija, of Huron, of Anvilus. Sons of Terra and the Stars alike. But we were taken from these mother-lands and sent across the galaxy as the sons of madmen. Now that these fathers have set their empire ablaze, we are sons of none. Though we are still Guardians, we shall ride the Storm once more, preaching War. Though we pursue our prey, our blade hides in darkness. Though we still trample the graves of the dead, we are wraiths ourselves. We are bloodied, we are orphans, we are the Storm." -Zhalmon Haarst, formerly of the Fire Keepers, marauder of the Storm of Steel Demus Ragnok 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-4664385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) I carry the memories of countless brothers within me. I shall not do those brothers dishonour. I am a warrior of the XVIIIth and proud to serve my Emperor -The Scarred King, real name unknown  We were stars of the morning once. Now we are stars that fell and the whole world shall burn in the crater we create -N/A Blackshield formerly of the Morning Stars  We did everything for the Emperor. We lost brothers for him. We razed our home for him, slaughtered our own people. I still remember their screams as we butchered them in the streets. When Leman's sons lost their minds, we executed them for him. Those who didn't we hid, made our own. Not once did we ask why, not once did we turn around and refuse, demand to know what he planned because we believed in him.  In my life, I have only ever loved two people: the Ruirech and the Emperor. Then I found out that the Emperor never truly trusted us. We weren't important enough to know his plans. We weren't his chosen warriors as we thought. We were dumb brutes, to be used and then discarded.  He broke my heart. Now, I fight for myself and for my brothers. The primarchs, the Emperor. They can all go to hell.  Each man must die someday. This I know. Every tale must have its end. When mine ends, it will be as a warrior for that is what I am, not a slave to be used as the Emperor wishes. And when the Valkyries ride to summon me home, I shall welcome them with open arms. I have fought, fought well and forged a fine tale to tell at the table of the gods. -N/A, formerly of the Crimson Lions Edited February 23, 2017 by Sigismund229 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-4664440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 "T'was in the fires of Revelation that our fates were broken. Daer'dd was weak. Icarion is mad. The Suzerains are fools. This Imperium is collapsing, there is no use trying to save it. Only one goal shall lead us now, one we have always bore: we shall bring the Storm. We had been sons once. Sons of Jurvik, of Obsailes, of Panslavija, of Huron, of Anvilus. Sons of Terra and the Stars alike. But we were taken from these mother-lands and sent across the galaxy as the sons of madmen. Now that these fathers have set their empire ablaze, we are sons of none. Though we are still Guardians, we shall ride the Storm once more, preaching War. Though we pursue our prey, our blade hides in darkness. Though we still trample the graves of the dead, we are wraiths ourselves. We are bloodied, we are orphans, we are the Storm." -Zhalmon Haarst, formerly of the Fire Keepers, marauder of the Storm of Steel Just wanted to say I find this fascinating. Carry on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-4665115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 It's the BotL version of a speech I wrote in the Blackshields: Loyalty Unknown thread. The Storm of Steel exists in both verses, founded in the aftermath of the DoR/dropsite massacre. They find in the death of the Bear/Gorgon and the treachery of their lords the final argument to an idea long kept silent: primarchs are flawed. They believe themselves gods and kings when they are but sources of genetic material. Many of the Storm have fought long before their primarchs came and enforced some flawed idea of nobility. Others were born from secessionists of the Home Worlds, others yet censured for misconduct. The Storm Host are spiritual successors to the Thunnder Warriors of old, a rad-grenade to the broadsword of the Legions. They reject all sides and pursue War Unending as an end in itself. Theirs is an army of blackened steel and iron chains, of poison gas and creeping fire. Many fell trying to execute the "War"master, Kozja, or Koschei. Word has it that they planned to assassinate all primarchs. No gods. No master. Only war, for ever and ever. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-4665350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Sounds like they'd end up with a number of Blood Wolves in their ranks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-4665354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I don't have a name for their commander yet, but he's either a former Blood Wolf, Storm Rider, or Steel Guard. And probably one of the Firstborn, a fluff element introduced by Hyenidae, to whom the original Storm of Steel was an homage. simison and Demus Ragnok 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-4665471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 In the old stories, when the bells tolled for midnight you always knew that the dawn was just over the horizon. It's arrival was inevitable. You just needed to hold on. We have reached midnight and a storm threatens to consume us all. But I see no dawn. No reprieve with the coming of the light. Only an eternity of despair and darkness. Â -Unknown legionary of the Midnight Angels Warband Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-4674121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 Had an idea for a character:  Broklur Tidespiter, the Abyssal Knight, Last Shoalmaster of the Twenty-Sixth When the Twenty-Sixth tendril fleet’s masters defied their Primarch’s call to war against the Emperor, Broklur Tidespite followed his commanders with a steadfast conviction that would see him through the attrition that followed. This resolve he kept in spite of the murderous violence visited upon the Twenty-Sixth, and as those above and around him fell he ascended quickly. The First Solar War left him as de facto Ayatollah, walking the line between the urge to punish Icarion’s armies and his tendril’s survival.  When Aegar Vyrn began to piece together his coalition of broken armies, Tidespite actively sought him out, recognising a commander who might forge something greater from the orphaned and scattered loyalists who fought in the shadow of Icarion’s counterfeit empire. As before, his resolve and mettle placed him in good stead, and the Twenty-Sixth would repay many times over the hurt inflicted upon them.  Cataphracti Terminator Armour Power maul Storm bolter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-4905233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) Placeholder. Edited January 10, 2020 by Beren Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-5002510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSwordmaster Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) Sun Wuzhao- Loyalist Warriors of Peace Commander and Leader of the Vermilion Tigers (WIP) Sun Wuzhao was one of the few loyal Warriors of Peace commanders that stayed with the Imperium. He was known for wearing tiger skin on his power armor and his courage on the battlefield brought him accolades and rose in the ranks from a captain to a chapter master. Born on Terra, he fought in many engagements over the course of the Great Crusade, but rarely fought in huge battles that his legion fought in. Instead, he was used in smaller engagements that involved petty bandits or Imperial rebels that seek their own independence. Being isolated from the main legion for periods of a time, he did not get see his own Primarch as his superior, but the Emperor of Mankind. What indoctrination the Jade General did to the legion were unsuccessful to him and his brothers of his chapter as they sided with the Emperor and not the Primarch. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I more story written for this character and the chapter, but not a lot. Edited April 21, 2019 by ShadowSwordmaster Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-5299991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 Big ol' thought here: what are the Insurrectionists doing with the Loyalist gene-seed they take, when there isn't an Insurgo to use it?  My answer would be: Chimerae, but on a far greater scale than in the Heresy, and regimented, emerging a few years into the Insurrection. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-5318608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 The Bastard Sons, heirs of ruin and demise Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-5318963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) What should we call the individual forces? I count WoL, Scions Hospitaliers, CL and Iron Bears as the Legions whose gene-seed would get this treatment. Edited May 22, 2019 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-5318986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 We should probably establish a few Companies/Chapters(?) and what gene-seed each one is grown from first before we start suggesting names, as that and the inherited characteristics will likely inform the names, that is unless we decide to give them more nondescript designations to represent their lesser, disposable status as compared to the proper Insurrectionist Marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-5319047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 23, 2019 Author Share Posted May 23, 2019 I was thinking the Insurrectionists would play it safe initially, so you'd have four such armies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-5319125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Listen, I don't mean to rain on your parade, but make sure you don't steal Kozja's schtick please :) some limited Chimerae, yeah, but don't go overboard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-5319126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 23, 2019 Author Share Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) I was thinking Kozja would be responsible for them, mate. Hang on, did I totally fail to mention that? :facepalm: Edited May 23, 2019 by Kelborn edited the facepalm Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-5319136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 So we're going for some chimearic companies given birth by Scions, Bears, Lions and Wardens geneseed? Â Give the sign and my name generator brain will start rolling. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-5319156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 I'd recommend against using the geneseed of the Wardens of Light, or any with Pariah genes  But yeah, I still need convincing that Kozja would be spreading these out before getting to the Suzerainty (plus one of my units are Legio Genesis prototypes... which is essentially Chimaeric Geneseed dudesmen) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-5320166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 I would argue that we do the opposite, that these are created by someone other than Kozja and are a stark contrast to the genesis prototypes. Where the Genesis lot are the result of clinical scientific experimentation and are elite forces that try to avoid drawing attention, the other Chimerae are more widespread but also more mistrusted, unstable and expendable. They can also be used specificaly to mock the Loyalists (who undertake campaigns specificaly to eliminate them) and draw attention away from the aforementioned Genesis troops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-5320195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 The thing is, Genesis prototypes are already unstable to some extent. The project will only come to fruition a millenium later, and is directly involved in the death of Kozja, and the worst civil war within the Suzerainty (War of the False Primarch) - these are all things because we can't flat out say Kozja is better than the Emperor in the field of genetics (*glares at Belisarius*). Â If it's essentially the same principle as chimeric gene-seed of the Blackshields in canonverse, I'd be ok, but basically don't go overboard with it. If you want to go with the "expendable" aspect, I'd suggest looking at the Inductii again ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323711-ia-blackshields-legion-traitors-and-similar/page/2/#findComment-5320292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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