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The new Orbital Assault: Dreadnought talons


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Not sure if folks noticed the preview of the new Legion book from the Black Library page, but talons can now buy pods for crazy dreadnought from the sky spam. The only limitation is buying and carrying all those oversized dread pods!

 

This was actually spoiled verbatim during one of the February events by an attendee who spoke with the designers, so I am expecting cheaper assault marines and a nerf to dreadclaw (apparently the place within 2" was meant as a hard requirement and limitation of the unusual iris deployment method).

 

 

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The wording for it is probably the best we could have expected: You HAVE to try and place them as close together as possible but if they scatter away from eachother, whatever.

 

It does OA lists A LOT since their main drawback is usually the lack of Anti-Tank and non-infantry units. Being able to take a TON of dreadnoughts should help deal with that problem.

Box dreads work in certain formats, and Orbital Assault is one of them. They retain WS5, so they're combat potential is still decent. Give them a chainfist & dual graviton guns (which are fine with BS4) and they'll do a number on vehicles.

 

The unique options like armoured ceramite, hunter-killer missiles, Siege Wreckers, frag assault launchers and flamestorm cannons are also worth considering.

 

But when you compare the Castraferrum to the Contemptor-Cortus, they start to look a bit average. The BaC Contemptor is nice and basic, so would work well as a Cortus model. Despite the ludicrous new price, you'll still be able to pick up cheap sprues from eBay.

 

Speaking of which... How good would the Dreadnought Drop Pod be in plastic?

This makes me happy as a Contemptor lover who wants to build a pod army.

 

Do the FW dread pods scale well with the Contemptor or are they a tad small?

The only dreads that fit in DDPs are castrefarrum dreadnoughts. contemptors are too tall to completely fit inside.

 

However, I usually let my opponents use gutted regular drop pods as 'counts as' DDPs. It's not like you were going to store your dreadnought in the pod. Plus it's actually a disadvantage to use a smaller pod, harder to gain the shrouded benefit.

 

I'm very happy with this rules revision. I seem to remember in Prospero Burns the SW's employed precision talon strikes comprised of 3 contemptor primes.

Hmm might still get some as I do like the model.

 

I'm glad as it makes sense, tanks are out of the question in this build and infantry heavy weapons squads are going to be at a disadvantage when they come on.

 

I've actually rejigged the two shopping lists I have set up for FW because of this.

Seeing as Cortus aren't stated in the RoW they probably would be limited to one in a pod per elite slot and thus very vulnerable.

 

So, a random question and possible can of worms...

 

You deploy via dread pod for a Talon of contemptors - how does it work in terms of drop pod assault and the number of pods rule?

 

Would they count as "one" as they have to arrive together, or could they only be deployed later on as a single reserve roll? But what if you had 5 pods and they were 3 of them? Do you have to bring down all of those?

Could never use a normal pod for a dread in the Heresy I think?

 

"legion dreads may take legion drop pods as dt (on a 1:1 ratio)..."  -orbital assault atm

 

Cortus is an extremely fragile chassis and I am unconvinced they are better than regular dreads. More offensive potential certainly, but WS4 and made of tissues from any angle but the front.

 

Yea but krak grenade/front s6 immunity, shooting inv on the front, and rage/+1i, fleet and move through cover (think of getting through the grav blasts you leave behind) are very useful for my aggressive dual-grav usage

Seeing as Cortus aren't stated in the RoW they probably would be limited to one in a pod per elite slot and thus very vulnerable.

 

So, a random question and possible can of worms...

 

You deploy via dread pod for a Talon of contemptors - how does it work in terms of drop pod assault and the number of pods rule?

 

Would they count as "one" as they have to arrive together, or could they only be deployed later on as a single reserve roll? But what if you had 5 pods and they were 3 of them? Do you have to bring down all of those?

Good question, and do you roll for reserves for the whole Talon or one at a time?

Seeing as Dread Talons count as a single unit during deployment and you'd essentially be deploying them from deep strike reserves/drop pod assault or what have you, then, imo, 1 roll for the whole Talon.

 

Especially since only OA can do this.

Ok, then how does that work with Drop Pod Assault?

 

If you have 5 pods as in the example Charlo mentioned, Unit A, Unit B, and the three dreadnoughts. Could you select Unit A, Unit B, and a dreadnought as your three first turn pods, and since the Talon is a unit, you drop all 5 top of 1?  Brutal!

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