Rafen IX Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 I've been really neglecting the Lucius drop pod. And the list of benefits as stated above make a HUGE difference to the Libby's survivability after podding, which is easily its biggest weakness. It's amazing how much difference just two extra (three if you count the FAQ reversing the specialist weapon on the force halberd) makes to the unit. It's in my mind the hidden gem of the codex and if it's up there supporting your jumpers the enemy cannot ignore it. Technomancy and Fulmination are the stand outs by far. I can't think of anything that this little beast can't threaten except a wraithknight because you'll never catch the damn thing unless you maybe get some scouts to switch Fulmination style (expect the eldar player to rage deny that roll lol). I look forward to seeing more on the battlefield because they are a very iconic BA unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I'll definitely have one in my next list having read this thread. Where can I get the new Psykic cards by the way?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 What's GW's latest word on the halberd? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 'Is the furioso force halberd supposed to have the specialist weapon rule?' 'No' Â FAQ Blood Angels I'll definitely have one in my next list having read this thread. Where can I get the new Psykic cards by the way?!I believe they're still up on the website or you can find them in the supplement Angels of Death. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I mean, If I ever buy a Lucius pod I'm only going to buy one. For my Leviathan. I suppose the plan would be: Hopefully get the +1AV Power. Drop Libby in normal pod. Leviathan nearby in Lucius pod. Buff the L Pod - AV13 5++ 3HP. Next turn, disembark Leviathan, buff that to be 14/14/13 4++ 4HP Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 'Is the furioso force halberd supposed to have the specialist weapon rule?' 'No' FAQ Blood Angels Ah I knew that one. I thought they said something new. It however does nothing to convince those that doubt the halberd getting +1A anyways. I'll definitely have one in my next list having read this thread. Where can I get the new Psykic cards by the way?!I believe they're still up on the website or you can find them in the supplement Angels of Death. Did I miss it or did the book omit saying that the new disciplines are available to BA? I mean, If I ever buy a Lucius pod I'm only going to buy one. For my Leviathan. I suppose the plan would be: Hopefully get the +1AV Power. Drop Libby in normal pod. Leviathan nearby in Lucius pod. Buff the L Pod - AV13 5++ 3HP. Next turn, disembark Leviathan, buff that to be 14/14/13 4++ 4HP Wouldn't you load the pods the other way around? The leviathan is/can be a lot more shooty than the Libby dread, so he could do more on the turn he drops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 You can still shoot out of a Lucius Pod! :D Â But the Libby would not be able to buff the Leviathan if he was inside a Lucius pod as that would be his only possible target. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 @Quixus, enjoy this graphic GW provides (from the psychic card deck): Â Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 DA can't take Biomancy. Â Huh, who knew? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 DA can't take Biomancy. Â Huh, who knew? Â Sadly, and not to be snippy, anyone who plays DA knew from the moment their Codex dropped :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 Could be worse cousin, you still get telepathy. Ah the days of invisible Libby dreds lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I played with an Invisible Libbynaught in a few games before we got it nipped from us, it was hilarious. Â ps. at best I play Deathwing (among several other armies), but I'm a BA player through and through. I know it's a DV Libby in my pic but he was painstakingly converted away from his sword-bearing brethren. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I miss Telekinesis most. I never used Invisibility, but I loved Levitating around the dread, and then knocking out a Shockwave onto a bunch of unsuspecting Guardsmen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 I played with an Invisible Libbynaught in a few games before we got it nipped from us, it was hilarious. Â ps. at best I play Deathwing (among several other armies), but I'm a BA player through and through. I know it's a DV Libby in my pic but he was painstakingly converted away from his sword-bearing brethren. Apologies brother, by the blood we are bound ;) Yes his loss was felt, although the flyrant was still his nemesis with those 12 twin linked s6 shots into the rear AV. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016  I'll definitely have one in my next list having read this thread. Where can I get the new Psykic cards by the way?!I believe they're still up on the website or you can find them in the supplement Angels of Death. They seem only to be available with the book. Is the book useful at all for Blood Angels? If not I could just hock it on eBay I guess... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016   I'll definitely have one in my next list having read this thread. Where can I get the new Psykic cards by the way?!I believe they're still up on the website or you can find them in the supplement Angels of Death. They seem only to be available with the book. Is the book useful at all for Blood Angels? If not I could just hock it on eBay I guess...   The book is totally useful!  If you want to run marine allies or something.... Also the powers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016   I'll definitely have one in my next list having read this thread. Where can I get the new Psykic cards by the way?!I believe they're still up on the website or you can find them in the supplement Angels of Death. They seem only to be available with the book. Is the book useful at all for Blood Angels? If not I could just hock it on eBay I guess...   So available they're almost on the street corner: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Psychic-Powers-Adeptus-Astartes-ENG-2016 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 UK Link :P Â https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Psychic-Powers-Adeptus-Astartes-ENG-2016 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Weird! They didn't come up in my search, just the book, digital additions and book plus cards... Oh well if the book is useful I'll get both! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Like I said, only useful if you plan on playing Codex Space Marines, as it has the decurions/ formations/ relics/ chapter rules for everyone etc  Except Ultras trolololol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Not against the idea of allies, I like to keep my options open! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Iron Hands make for a great way to get all the allied vehicles we could want! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Iron Hands make for a great way to get all the allied vehicles we could want! IIRC the book also clarifies/changes that all vehicles bought for a [chapter] detachment are [chapter] vehicles. So IWND for all IH vehicles, not just dreads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 It does indeed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I played with an Invisible Libbynaught in a few games before we got it nipped from us, it was hilarious. ps. at best I play Deathwing (among several other armies), but I'm a BA player through and through. I know it's a DV Libby in my pic but he was painstakingly converted away from his sword-bearing brethren. Apologies brother, by the blood we are bound Yes his loss was felt, although the flyrant was still his nemesis with those 12 twin linked s6 shots into the rear AV. Don't waste the $ on the Angels of Death supplement. There is nothing BA in there at all unless you play Red Marines. They have the new psychic power cards in a deck on gw.com (last time I checked). https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Psychic-Powers-Adeptus-Astartes-ENG-2016 (US site, but you get the idea) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323807-librarian-dred-vs-imperial-guard/page/3/#findComment-4440851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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