Iron-Daemon Forge Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 So if you've not check out facebook, ADB has just posted something pretty cool. Iskandar Khayon - Black Legion warlord, born of Prospero. High Sorcerer of the Ezekarion & master of the Ashen Dead. Lheorvine Ukris, "Firefist" - Black Legion Warlord, born of Nuvir's Landing. Officer of the Ezekarion & Champion of the War God's Maw. Needless to say I'm really looking forward to this :D Midnightmare, Sandlemad and thamier 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) :cuss yeah!!!! I cannot wait!!! EDIT - I know 10k years is a long time, but I am kind of hoping Lheor Ukris becomes Urkanthos :D Edited July 11, 2016 by Midnight Runner Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4439981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 On 7/11/2016 at 12:10 PM, Midnight Runner said: :cuss yeah!!!! I cannot wait!!! EDIT - I know 10k years is a long time, but I am kind of hoping Lheor Ukris becomes Urkanthos :D Hmm, not sure that will happen. Reveal hidden contents Wasn't there a scene in Talon where Khayon describes when Lheor died, and how it sucked and was an example of how traitors actually have feelings of brotherhood and loyalty? Midnightmare 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 On 7/11/2016 at 12:42 PM, Venomlust said: On 7/11/2016 at 12:10 PM, Midnight Runner said: yeah!!!! I cannot wait!!! EDIT - I know 10k years is a long time, but I am kind of hoping Lheor Ukris becomes Urkanthos Hmm, not sure that will happen. Reveal hidden contents Wasn't there a scene in Talon where Khayon describes when Lheor died, and how it sucked and was an example of how traitors actually have feelings of brotherhood and loyalty? Reveal hidden contents Yes there was. I seem to remember it was possible the 7th Black Crusade when they where against the Blood Angels on Mackan? Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedarkprincesnun Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 God I can't wait to read this but I need to read talon of horus first Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neigorath Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Awesome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Grooovy !!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 On 7/11/2016 at 12:48 PM, Thedarkprincesnun said: God I can't wait to read this but I need to read talon of horus first Yes, yes you do! :) DarKnight, thamier and Midnightmare 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) On 7/11/2016 at 12:47 PM, Insane Psychopath said: On 7/11/2016 at 12:42 PM, Venomlust said: On 7/11/2016 at 12:10 PM, Midnight Runner said: yeah!!!! I cannot wait!!! EDIT - I know 10k years is a long time, but I am kind of hoping Lheor Ukris becomes Urkanthos Hmm, not sure that will happen. Reveal hidden contents Wasn't there a scene in Talon where Khayon describes when Lheor died, and how it sucked and was an example of how traitors actually have feelings of brotherhood and loyalty? Reveal hidden contents Yes there was. I seem to remember it was possible the 7th Black Crusade when they where against the Blood Angels on Mackan? Totally! But that's the thing, we will never know until we....know! He is my fave character so really looking forward to this. Favourite writer, favourite faction, good times ahead :D Edited July 11, 2016 by Midnight Runner totgeboren and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Bit surprised by the title of 'officer' of the Ezekarion. Kind of expected something more like 'brother'. Or 'buddy'. 'Abaddon and the First-Name-Terms Gang'. Mightykin 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) BL recruited from prospero 0_o . May I ask how? Edited July 11, 2016 by the jeske Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) Dude was (is?) a Thousand Son. Abaddon's companions (as of the end of ToH, before there was a named Black Legion) also include two other Prosperine Thousand Sons, an Emperor's Child from Chemos, a World Eater from Nuvir's Landing, and a pack of Sons of Horus veterans presumably from Cthonia and Terra. All from different post-heresy, pre-Black Legion warbands too. Laying them out in a dramatis personae like that shows how their identities (homeworld, legion, relationship with their primarch, relationship with Abaddon, post-herey warband, role within the Black Legion) are mixed up things. ToH has a lot of these guys grappling with what parts of their identity are important to them. Everyone seems to call Khayon 'Tizcan' for his home city, for example, rather than 'Thousand Son' or 'son of Magnus'. EDIT: Whoops, there was a Colchisian Word Bearer there too, as well as significant non-marines. Edited July 11, 2016 by Sandlemad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I thought a whole bunch of chaos fluff was that Abaddon drew marines to him from all legions/warbands due to his suddenly developed charisma, it's not a stretch these marines actually came from their respective home world's? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 On 7/11/2016 at 3:59 PM, Sandlemad said: Bit surprised by the title of 'officer' of the Ezekarion. Kind of expected something more like 'brother'. Or 'buddy'. 'Abaddon and the First-Name-Terms Gang'. I concur. "Brother" is too informal and "Frater" is too Loyalist-ish, but I'm still holding out for something cooler and more appropriate to strike my brainjunk in the throes of the wordstorm. Suggestions welcome! On 7/11/2016 at 4:30 PM, the jeske said: BL recruited from prospero 0_o . May I ask how? Oh, you. All these threads you were in where it was discussed before might help, you crazy jokemeister. On 7/11/2016 at 5:19 PM, helterskelter said: I thought a whole bunch of chaos fluff was that Abaddon drew marines to him from all legions/warbands due to his suddenly developed charisma, it's not a stretch these marines actually came from their respective home world's? Mhm! Indeed so. And they're the among the main characters; anyone who's read The Talon of Horus will already know they were a World Eater and a Thousand Son, respectively. Sandlemad's explanation is a good'un. Iron-Daemon Forge, Plaguecaster, Brother Aiwass and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammeron Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Massively looking forward to this. ADB has a way of...elevating the 40K material to realms I would never have believed it would function on. Don't get me wrong; I'm a huge fan of the pulpy, bolter-porn, grim-dark hyperbole as anyone else, but books like The Talon of Horus, Aurellian, Betrayer...they make the universe and its characters something more; there's a wilflly subversive quality to them, in which they take established history and lend it subtly different emphases, making the villains not quite so villainous as they might be generally painted, the heroes not quite so heroic as their own self-authored legends claim...I particularly loved the relatonships between Khayon and his entourage in the last book; his genuine, emotional attachment to his pet Dark Eldar and daemonic familiar. Abaddon himself was the biggest surprise; I like him far better as the faintly laconic sage that ADB paints him as than the red-handed nemesis of all that is good he generally comes off as in the background books. DarKnight 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Dark or Ebon Founders? Though that's a little Wolf Claws and Blood Fists maybe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 On 7/11/2016 at 5:33 PM, A D-B said: On 7/11/2016 at 3:59 PM, Sandlemad said: Bit surprised by the title of 'officer' of the Ezekarion. Kind of expected something more like 'brother'. Or 'buddy'. 'Abaddon and the First-Name-Terms Gang'. I concur. "Brother" is too informal and "Frater" is too Loyalist-ish, but I'm still holding out for something cooler and more appropriate to strike my brainjunk in the throes of the wordstorm. Suggestions welcome! Dang, you hit on such a good one with 'Ezekarion', can see how it's tricky. Is 'companion' too chummy/blatantly Hellenistic? Thinking of the Ezekarion as a comitatus makes it more Germanic and warlord-y, perhaps. I get the impression that they're not all sworn to each other - brother, frater - so much as to Abaddon personally and/or the Black Legion idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaurdian31 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 How about something like Dark Guard, Oath Takers or Sworn Brothers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemisor Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I still think " Talon of Horus II - the revengening" is a better title Khornestar and totgeboren 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 On 7/11/2016 at 5:33 PM, A D-B said: On 7/11/2016 at 5:19 PM, helterskelter said: I thought a whole bunch of chaos fluff was that Abaddon drew marines to him from all legions/warbands due to his suddenly developed charisma, it's not a stretch these marines actually came from their respective home world's? Mhm! Indeed so. And they're the among the main characters; anyone who's read The Talon of Horus will already know they were a World Eater and a Thousand Son, respectively. Sandlemad's explanation is a good'un. It was indeed, I should have quoted jeske and for this I apologise. It was more surprise about the fact he talks alot about chaos and didn't seem to know this well established bit of floof . Ive got my copy of talon and enjoyed it yea verily, looking forward to round 2 :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) On 7/11/2016 at 5:33 PM, A D-B said: Suggestions welcome! Why do they need such titles as Sorcerer or Officer in there? Isn't "Member of the Ezekarion" or "Founding member of the Ezekarion" enough? I bet stating that you're part of the Ezekarion would make any lesser lord or sorcerer soil their armour anyway... Edited July 11, 2016 by Excessus Noserenda 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 On 7/11/2016 at 8:13 PM, Excessus said: On 7/11/2016 at 5:33 PM, A D-B said: Suggestions welcome! Why do they need such titles as Sorcerer or Officer in there? Isn't "Member of the Ezekarion" or "Founding member of the Ezekarion" enough? I bet stating that you're part of the Ezekarion would make any lesser lord or sorcerer soil their armour anyway... Yeah, I've been bouncing between "Member" and "Officer" as the generic descriptors. Midnightmare 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Currently the two books I'm most looking forward to are this and the Charcarodons book that's out next year. Do we have a vague release date for this, or is the closest we're getting 'the year starts with a 2'? Dragonlover Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 On 7/11/2016 at 8:21 PM, A D-B said: On 7/11/2016 at 8:13 PM, Excessus said: On 7/11/2016 at 5:33 PM, A D-B said: Suggestions welcome! Why do they need such titles as Sorcerer or Officer in there? Isn't "Member of the Ezekarion" or "Founding member of the Ezekarion" enough? I bet stating that you're part of the Ezekarion would make any lesser lord or sorcerer soil their armour anyway... Yeah, I've been bouncing between "Member" and "Officer" as the generic descriptors. Just plain old Ezekarion? As in; Iskandar Khayon, High Sorcerer and Master of the Ashen Dead, Ezekarion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Quote All these threads you were in where it was discussed before might help, you crazy jokemeister. I tend to forget some stuff. Quote It was indeed, I should have quoted jeske and for this I apologise. It was more surprise about the fact he talks alot about chaos and didn't seem to know this well established bit of floof I read only the first and half of the second NL books from adb. I have not read anything else he wrote. So for me this is not established stuff, but it is good to know that there are 1ksons runing around outside of 1ksons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323857-talon-of-horus-2/#findComment-4440333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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