SkimaskMohawk Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 las vindis are better at killing tanks, venators better at trolling super heavies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 las vindis are better at killing tanks, venators better at trolling super heavies. Pretty much, the las vindi brings the 'pew pew pew' while the venator bring the 'BWOWM' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Considering Typhons/Falchions/Glaives rely on weapons that don't have a conventional To Hit roll, Venators are simply the bane of their existence. 2 S10 Ordnance shots is a pretty decent chance of a pen and it only takes one pen to leave them snap shooting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Pfft, y'all wish you had Krios Venators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Typhon is an issue but with only 6 Hullpoints and no flare shields I'm not too concerned. How often do we encounter Fellblade variants or Titans? I'll concede the Sicaran Venator has a place in big games. Is that what people are playing? Most HH games I've played in are at the 2-2.5k mark. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 ^I've been getting an entertaining amount of mileage out of a command squad with Charnabal sabers to pal around with Khârn and an apothecary recently. Chain sabers rock ! The only issue I'm having now is that chainaxes give that super sexy +1str. So it's a legit hard choice now to choose between rending or str5. I'd do it like this - sabers for leaders and chain axes for the grunts... Synergy. \m/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazarak Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Also looks like all the baneblade variants are a thing. Stormlords for instance... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I still cannot understand the popularity of the Stormlord. What AoD list needs any assistance in killing marines? Also the troop capacity is the biggest trap ever. I'm all about those Stormswords. Big big difference. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Well, unless someone can kill the Stormlord after it outflanks with Interceptor fire, those 40 dudes are gonna essentially warp across the table and disembark, with 15 S6 shots behind 'em to bust open Rhinos or whittle away volkite-wielding support troops or whatever. Best to get the hell out of the Stormlord ASAP to avoid the catastrophe of it exploding with the troops inside. That's my theoryhammering, anyway. As you pointed out elsewhere, they can just be outflanked without the Stormlord for nearly the same effect. Now I'm considering a couple of Leviathans, but I can't decide if I want grav bombards for 'em or not. Everything in HH is awesome, it's hard to choose! Saving my money up, biding my time... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I've noticed that the Machinator Array is listed in the wargear summary as available to techmarines, but neither techmarines nor forge lords can take it. Am I missing something? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share Posted August 4, 2016 Flint never met the likes of Clem Fandango and his rolling battle bunker Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I've noticed that the Machinator Array is listed in the wargear summary as available to techmarines, but neither techmarines nor forge lords can take it. Am I missing something? Say what now? You mind giving a page reference because that'd be pretty awesome if they could nab one. HELLO T6 FORGE LORD IN A STONE GAUNTLET LIST MAYBE? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Under CCW page 130, but in the units entry it doesn't appear :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Under CCW page 130, but in the units entry it doesn't appear Reading it, its just the standard Machinator Array bit. It doesn't say anything about it being an Option for anyone in its blurb just that its kinda in the same vein as a Servo-Arm used by Techmarines and Mechanicum Magi. Thats it. I don't know why its in the book if no unit can take it but its not an issue like, say, Dreadclaws having Inertial Guidance on their page but not in the Special Rule Section of their profile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Slips ... the T6 Godfrey Dream T n T tho Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Flint never met the likes of Clem Fandango and his rolling battle bunker Yeah I have. I've also heard how many times Tim gives Spencer :cuss for having 4/5s of his army explode b/c his Stormlord got blowed up, killed everything inside, then took out stuff around it too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I'm all about those Stormswords. Big big difference. Out of curiosity - where are the latest rules for the Stormsword. That thing is like a Typhon on crazy pills and I want it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 ^Probs in the Crusade Imperialis list that just came out. I use two Stormswords in my pull no punches Solar Aux Onslaught. They are everything you love about the Typhon +3" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I'm all about those Stormswords. Big big difference. Out of curiosity - where are the latest rules for the Stormsword. That thing is like a Typhon on crazy pills and I want it. Crusade Imperialis Army List, pag 55 is the most recent I believe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 ^Probs in the Crusade Imperialis list that just came out. AH! Fair enough, I thought that one would be for the SA and we had to use an IA one or something. Noice. Slightly saucy joke... Hidden Content They are everything you love about the Typhon +3" That's what my last gf said to me about her ex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I've noticed that the Machinator Array is listed in the wargear summary as available to techmarines, but neither techmarines nor forge lords can take it. Am I missing something? Say what now? You mind giving a page reference because that'd be pretty awesome if they could nab one. HELLO T6 FORGE LORD IN A STONE GAUNTLET LIST MAYBE? Technarine Doc Oc conversion time Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 ^Probs in the Crusade Imperialis list that just came out. AH! Fair enough, I thought that one would be for the SA and we had to use an IA one or something. Noice. Slightly saucy joke... Hidden Content They are everything you love about the Typhon +3" That's what my last gf said to me about her ex. Syntax implies you're the Typhon in that equation, in which case, damn son, your last GF was ruthless! I guess that's why you broke up? :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 · Hidden by Flint13, August 4, 2016 - No reason given Hidden by Flint13, August 4, 2016 - No reason given ^Probs in the Crusade Imperialis list that just came out. AH! Fair enough, I thought that one would be for the SA and we had to use an IA one or something. Noice. Slightly saucy joke... Hidden Content They are everything you love about the Typhon +3" That's what my last gf said to me about her ex. Syntax implies you're the Typhon in that equation, in which case, damn son, your last GF was ruthless! I guess that's why you broke up? http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/20140428/5026078/daaaamn-o.gif Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457858
Legionnaire of the VIIth Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 AH! Fair enough, I thought that one would be for the SA and we had to use an IA one or something. Noice. As they are the most up to date rules on the Stormsword I would encourage those playing with one to use the the entry from Crusader Imperialis minus the Explorator Adaptation special rule (if they are not playing Solar Auxilia obviously). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 ^Probs in the Crusade Imperialis list that just came out. AH! Fair enough, I thought that one would be for the SA and we had to use an IA one or something. Noice. Slightly saucy joke... Hidden Content They are everything you love about the Typhon +3" That's what my last gf said to me about her ex. Syntax implies you're the Typhon in that equation, in which case, damn son, your last GF was ruthless! I guess that's why you broke up? :D Right? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/22/#findComment-4457931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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