God-Potato of Mankind Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Couldn't Rhino's always take pintle weapons? Also - Rhino's with an assault cannon for BA! Wheeeee. Only up to heavy flamers. Multi meltas are new and a golly geebbq great buff to Covenant of Fire Salamanders :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Ironwing Squadrons with Tank Hunter and BS5. ROLL OUT. OF MALCADORS LOL. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Ooo and cheaper command squads so I can run Vulkan and my Pyre Guard for fluffy games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Laser destroyers are still 36" sadly not evened out for those rapier units Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 It's a good day to be a Raven. A very good day indeed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Polo Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Laser destroyers are still 36" sadly not evened out for those rapier units Read the previous page, I just went over this. Rapiers are 48". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Laser destroyers have been an inconsistent disaster for ages now. My eBook says 36", S9, AP1, Ordnance 1, Twin-linked in every entry and wargear section, except for the Fellblade where it's AP2. :/ Doesn't have 48" range anywhere. Feels like I have to pay another $10 to get the extra 12" range in the iBook... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Polo Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 So that's how FW justifies the extra price on the enhanced edition :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Wow, this new Scorpius ammo profile is great. Might even consider taking seekers without/less than usual combis. On the other hand, Headhunters feel like loosers right now. A question: Grenade lunchers - are they in the wargear section? Also does Moritat still have "Lone killer" rule? With double nerf (plasma + 12shots max) he's kinda useless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Interesting. The ebook seems to only have the Laser Destroyer, and not the Laser Destroyer Array. Guess that's what I get for spending ten less dollars! Did terminators never have a transport option or is that new?I have no idea what you're talking about. They did before, they do now. Where? I'm looking at the unit entry on the ebook right now and there's no option for dedicated transport? Laser destroyers have been an inconsistent disaster for ages now. My eBook says 36", S9, AP1, Ordnance 1, Twin-linked in every entry and wargear section, except for the Fellblade where it's AP2. :/ Doesn't have 48" range anywhere. Feels like I have to pay another $10 to get the extra 12" range in the iBook... Have you e-mailed FW about it? This sounds like there's been a mistake when creating the eBook file, so they'll want to update it as soon as possible I imagine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonberry Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Laser destroyers 36", laser destroyer arrays 48". Rapier carry arrays so 48". Brings them in line with the SA ones i think? I have ebook, and the drop down for fellblade says ap2 as well :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenbain Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Disappointing that there appears to be so many inconsistencies between the different digital versions. I really hope that doesn't carry over to the paper versions... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadmus Tyro Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Have they changed the breaching shield wargear special rules in any way ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Ah, I was going off the e book, and assumed it was that. So are laser destroyers the replacements for fellblades and Spartans? Probably just keep the las anions for range! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Disappointing that there appears to be so many inconsistencies between the different digital versions. I really hope that doesn't carry over to the paper versions... I love FW to bits, but it wouldn't be a high quality FW hardcover without some proofreading errors :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 To be fair, I think the digital editions fall under BL's umbrella, no? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I have a question: I noticed the Sicarans got a big price increase which makes me sad. I'm curious if the Sponson options are still the same cost? Everything else looks awesome! :-D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I'm loving the Baal malcadors though, very tempting to have an assault cannon boat with all the brrrrt I can muster..or two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Does anyone know the point values for these three items? Spartans -Ten points more expensive -Flare shield significantly more expensive -Laser destroyers are a free upgrade Javelin Attack Speeder -20 point drop -New special rules -Hunter killers cost less Dreadnaught Drop Pods -Large points increase Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Silly question, but is the Malcador still a Super-heavy Vehicle? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Flare Shields are 45 pts on a Spartan now, 305 base, LasDes are Free, yes. Javelin is -20 and hit in CC at -2 unless immobilized. HKs stoll 5 per. DDP is 100 flat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Silly question, but is the Malcador still a Super-heavy Vehicle? No, it's heavy support now.. Roll out the onslaught force org haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Silly question, but is the Malcador still a Super-heavy Vehicle? Yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Wait, Java are cheaper AND the HKs? They were only 5pts before Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Personally, they overdid it with the drop pod price increase. The leviathan is good, but was teetering on the 'almost too expensive' part of that spectrum. An extra 30 points makes it cost almost as much as knight, which you can now take as a LOW. Get ready to see less leviathans and more of those. Otherwise the dreadclaw is better and you can put all your other dreadnoughts inside of it. I dunno dude, let's chat about this. Giving a dread (especially a Levi) what amounts to three void shields and Shrouded is pretty amazing. My WE Orbital Assault list uses three Levis in pods to fill heavy support and I'll gladly still pay 100 points per to drop those chubby bastards exactly where I need them and more or less guarentee they'll be able to charge something expensive. I think they're easily worth a much as a Knight. If you just compare them foot slogging, then sure the Levi obviously loses, but when you combine the mobility of the pod, the extra resilience it grants (essentially giving the Levi one more 'hull point' than the knight) coupled with the fact a charging Leviathan will probably knee cap a knight before it can swing in most circumstances... totes worth the asking price Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323937-rules-changes-in-lacal/page/4/#findComment-4442867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.