Cessna Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 I've been away from the game for a while. I have copies of the "Red Books" for the Heresy era. I broke down and bought two copies of the Betrayal at Calth box. I figure this will give me what I need as far as basic infantry goes. I have a big backlog of 40K vehicle kits - rhinos, land raiders, etc. I generally prefer "mechanized" armies. I'm going to make either classic Ultramarines or Imperial Fists. (It all depends on how my yellow test models come out.) Paint-scheme wise, I'm going to use some modern techniques (airbrushing, etc) but use a sort of 2nd Edition aesthetic - think "red turrets on Predators." I'd also like to get some 40K use out of this army if possible. So - how should I set up my infantry as I build them? I figure I've got 60 troopers - what number of missile launchers, flamers etc, should I use? What sort of vehicles should I pick up after I have the infantry and transports ready? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323986-making-an-hh-army-where-to-go-next/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomMarine Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 The options are pretty endless with 60 infantry units to play with. These are the units I would build from 2 boxes +++ 2 calth boxes (2180pts) +++ ++ Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness) ++ + Troops + Legion Tactical Squad [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla] ····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Fist] Legion Tactical Squad [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla] ····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Fist] Legion Tactical Support Squad [4x Legion Space Marines, Melta Guns] ····Legion Sergeant [Artificer Armour] + Elites + Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon ····Cortus Dreadnought [Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon with inbuilt twin-linked bolter] Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought [Two Kheres Pattern Assault Cannons] Legion Terminator Squad [Cataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, 2x Chainfist, 9x Legion Terminators, 7x Power Fist] ····Legion Terminator Sergeant [Grenade Harness, Thunderhammer] Legion Veteran Tactical Squad [2x Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Web, 9x Legion Veteran Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Sniper] Legion Veteran Tactical Squad [2x Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Web, 9x Legion Veteran Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Sniper] + Fast Attack + Legion Seeker Squad [9x Legion Seeker Space Marines] + Heavy Support + Legion Heavy Support Squad [4x Legion Space Marines, Missile Launchers] Obvs the support and heavy squad would be better at 10 men but not enough weapons to do it. The vets and seekers due to the getting a serious buff in the new red book Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323986-making-an-hh-army-where-to-go-next/#findComment-4444558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindrenzi Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 The options are pretty endless with 60 infantry units to play with. These are the units I would build from 2 boxes +++ 2 calth boxes (2180pts) +++ ++ Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness) ++ + Troops + Legion Tactical Squad [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla] ····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Fist] Legion Tactical Squad [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla] ····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Fist] Legion Tactical Support Squad [4x Legion Space Marines, Melta Guns] ····Legion Sergeant [Artificer Armour] + Elites + Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon ····Cortus Dreadnought [Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon with inbuilt twin-linked bolter] Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought [Two Kheres Pattern Assault Cannons] Legion Terminator Squad [Cataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, 2x Chainfist, 9x Legion Terminators, 7x Power Fist] ····Legion Terminator Sergeant [Grenade Harness, Thunderhammer] Legion Veteran Tactical Squad [2x Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Web, 9x Legion Veteran Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Sniper] Legion Veteran Tactical Squad [2x Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Web, 9x Legion Veteran Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Sniper] + Fast Attack + Legion Seeker Squad [9x Legion Seeker Space Marines] + Heavy Support + Legion Heavy Support Squad [4x Legion Space Marines, Missile Launchers] Obvs the support and heavy squad would be better at 10 men but not enough weapons to do it. The vets and seekers due to the getting a serious buff in the new red book Just the information I needed too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323986-making-an-hh-army-where-to-go-next/#findComment-4444644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Buy 4 more missile Launchers on ebay to be able to field 2x5 or 1x10 units of missiles as heavy support :-) With a Siege Breaker they'll have Tank Hunters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323986-making-an-hh-army-where-to-go-next/#findComment-4444659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cessna Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 RandomMarine, that's a huge help. Thank you very much! I don't know if I'd use that "as is," as I'll probably add things like rhinos/land raiders/speeders and the like. But that's a fantastic starting point, thanks again. I do notice that your Terminators have combi-bolters, the "vanilla" loadout. What are your thoughts on mixing in a couple of combi-meltas or combi-plasmas? Ishagu, four more missile launchers, good idea. I've got a bunch of 40K launchers I could use in a pinch, but the sorta-old school missile launchers are very cool; I think I'll track down some. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323986-making-an-hh-army-where-to-go-next/#findComment-4444691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 EBay sellers aren't too expensive when it comes to BaC bits :-) You should make some tac squads into Veterans with Plasmas/Meltas/Flamers :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323986-making-an-hh-army-where-to-go-next/#findComment-4444739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cessna Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 EBay sellers aren't too expensive when it comes to BaC bits :-) You should make some tac squads into Veterans with Plasmas/Meltas/Flamers :-) Good idea. It sounds like I'll be making a pool of troopers with bolters, plus some with weapons like flamers/meltas/plasmas to mix in as needed. Any thoughts on the combi-meltas/plasmas on the Terminators? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323986-making-an-hh-army-where-to-go-next/#findComment-4444745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 For 30k combi weapons on Cataphractii work very well. Meltas and Plasmas are most useful, but don't mix and match. Upon seeing the 30k Praetor with Combi Volkite, you can use the Tac squad combi weapons for the Catas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323986-making-an-hh-army-where-to-go-next/#findComment-4444749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cessna Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 Hm. I've got two combi-metas left over from the old Forge World "Terminator Upgrade" set... Think it would be better to go with all combi-bolters? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323986-making-an-hh-army-where-to-go-next/#findComment-4444755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Nah. You want them to make an impact with shooting as well. I'd be running all combi plasma/melta Termies but I know it's hard to come by thr upgrades :-/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323986-making-an-hh-army-where-to-go-next/#findComment-4444773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomMarine Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 The reason for the standard combi bolters is just lack of combi weapons I. The 2 boxes but I'd go for combi melta generally Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323986-making-an-hh-army-where-to-go-next/#findComment-4445098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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