Runefyre Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I'm planning on expanding my Ultramarines by adding an allied detachment that fits the requirements of our new RoW. But my biggest stumbling block is trying to figure out exactly how to portray pseudo-astartes. I had though SM scouts, but thems some terrible models (my eyes are still hurting after looking at them ). So I'm asking everyone, what would you use to represent the failed astartes aspirants used in a Vigilis Operatii? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavianCool Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 You could convert IG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4445644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Maybe wait for some Arbites from the new version of Necromunda? The Vigil Opertii always remembered me on the Secret State Police ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4445649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I wouldn't use arbites. VO is more gestapo than riot cop. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4445652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Tempestus Scions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4445664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherCaptainArkhan Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I am currently doing something rather similar for my Black One Hundred - but it was my understanding that the Vigil Opertii were not just comprised of non/failed Astartes, but also actual Astartes...? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4445670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Tempestus Scions? I was thinking of using Scions or some of the new Afterlife stuff from Anvil. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4445957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenbain Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I think the Afterlife stuff, though awesome, may be too small to represent pseudo-astartes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4445987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I always picture them as DKOK but in bright blue coats, gold helms and some yellow decoration etc. No idea why. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4445994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 Tempestus Scions? That's a distinct possibility, though would anyone have good suggestions for headswaps? I've never liked the stock helms on the scions. Perhaps some Skit vanguard heads? I always picture them as DKOK but in bright blue coats, gold helms and some yellow decoration etc. No idea why. That would strike me as more general Imperium Secondus troops, not elite "we get to work at the same level as astartes" secret police of Ultramar. But they are some of the sickest models FW produces Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4446031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I think Scions with Skitari heads is a great shout too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4446036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDrake28 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Scions are pretty much the size of a marine so they would be scaled right for failed Astartes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4446079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Why would they be as big as a marine if they failed? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4446131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 The VO was made up of dudes who successfully implanted geneseed, but somehow couldn't complete the transformation. This is reflected in the IM army list, with Gene-Crafted (+1str/I), and warrior elite (+1Ld). Those are the mandatory provenances for the Vigilis operatii RoW. Basically they're just as strong and fast as an astartes, but not quite as tough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4446226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caustic63 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I would use Tempestous Scions. I'm actually happy with how the Ultramarines are portrayed in 30K versus the 40K version, given the Vigil Operatii are kinda like a neat CIA-like offshoot of the legion. An oppertunity to incorporate some black into the typical Blue, White and Gold colour scheme. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4446229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Handro Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I'm planning to use parts of my Skitarii force - the bionics represent the strength/initiative boost, and limbs lost during the aspirant trials. Cloaks give the secret police vibe too.Plus, what am I going to do with these new Secutarii upgrades I got on Sunday until they get rules? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4446377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 I've set on buying a bunch of SC! skitarii and scions. I'll use the scions for bodies and vanguard helms for heads. I also plan to convert techpriest dominii into battle servitors (counts as ogryn brutes). Another interesting idea I've thought of is taking the legs of a dunecrawler and sticking an earthshaker cannon on top to create emplaced artillery. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4446453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I'm doing the exact same thing! I'm using the Scions from the Militarum Tempestus as Grenadiers. These will be backed up by a Leman Russ battle tank and a squad of Sentinels. I'll post the list I'll be fielding in the army list section. As they all have to take Warrior Elite and Gene Crafted they are really quite formidable! I'll look forward to seeing your take on the Militia. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4446474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 http://anvilindustry.co.uk/Regiments/Infantry-Heads-Helmets/beret-gasmask-veteran-heads How about these for the heads? http://anvilindustry.co.uk/image/cache/catalog/Regiments/Heads/beret-gas-400x400.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4446949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 Now I'm undecided. All the regiment's heads are awesome, maybe I'll have to get a sampling of them and test. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324024-vigilis-operatii-representation/#findComment-4447018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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