Thousand Eyes Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Hi all, I am trying to create a 1000 point starter force for the Imperial Fists in Zone Mortalis. I really like the Stone Gauntlet force idea and either Pollux or the new Tribune as the leader, but I can't figure out the remaining 160 points. Any tips or ideas please? Imperial Fists 30K: The Stone Gauntlet (840pts) HQ Alexis Polux Elites Contemptor Dreadnought Talon Legion Contemptor Dreadnought [Carapace Mounted Havoc Launcher, Extra Armour, Heavy Flamer, Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon ] Troops Legion Breacher Siege Squad [Legion Breacher Siege Sergeant, 9x Legion Breacher Siege Space Marines Legion Breacher Siege Squad [Legion Breacher Siege Sergeant, 9x Legion Breacher Siege Space Marines Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324060-imperial-fists-stone-gauntlet-help-1000-point-zm/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 You could add some more marines and upgrades to the Breacher squads - namely the sergeants and some special weapons. Maybe an Apothecary or 2? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324060-imperial-fists-stone-gauntlet-help-1000-point-zm/#findComment-4447019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Was looking to do the same thing - glad this one came up! I would definitely say to add special weapons to the breachers - seems pointless without them, especially given the fact you will likely face another contemptor. Melta is a good option, as well as AA/MB's on the Sergeants perhaps. I was kinda toying between Apothecaries, a small Tactical Support Squad (flamers or volk chargers/CCW?) or since last I read, fielding a Leviathan - slightly overkill and a massive points sink though (maybe Ok if you go up in points a bit I guess). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324060-imperial-fists-stone-gauntlet-help-1000-point-zm/#findComment-4447038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thousand Eyes Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 I hope would to expand this up later 1500 points and then to bring it up to 2000 points with a more rounded army list. But I really like the theme of void warfare. Apparently I also was using an old book and the breacher squads should be cheaper and all. Hmm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324060-imperial-fists-stone-gauntlet-help-1000-point-zm/#findComment-4447050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Yup, the latest book puts 10 man squads cheaper, 15 at the same price as they used to be and 20-man more expensive. I believe, don't quote me, Volkite Chargers on Tact Support are free (?) and you can now give them CCW's. There's a thread called "Rules Changes in LACAL" in the AoD section that's worth a read. Also worth grabbing Battlescribe to make lists with, the guy constantly updating it with the latest AoD rules is a godsend - well worth your time! But always check with the latest book and FAQ to be sure it's all valid. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324060-imperial-fists-stone-gauntlet-help-1000-point-zm/#findComment-4447056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thousand Eyes Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 Taking on board whatever has said I put together this as a list, the only problem is it seems to say I can only have one elite? Am I missing something there? HQ (165pts) Alexis Polux Elites (315pts) Apothecarion Detachment [Legion Apothecary (), Legion Apothecary ()] Legion Contemptor Dreadnought () [Carapace Mounted Havoc Launcher (), Extra Armour (), Heavy Flamer (), Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon ()] Troops (520pts) Legion Breacher Siege Squad () [Flamer (), 9x Legion Breacher Siege Space Marines (), Melta gun ()]····Legion Breacher Siege Sergeant () [Artificer Armour (), Melta Bombs (), Thunder Hammer ()] Legion Breacher Siege Squad () [Flamer (), 9x Legion Breacher Siege Space Marines (), Melta gun ()]····Legion Breacher Siege Sergeant () [Artificer Armour (), Melta Bombs (), Thunder Hammer ()] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324060-imperial-fists-stone-gauntlet-help-1000-point-zm/#findComment-4447916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The laughing raven Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 If you are using battlescribe, make sure its not using allied detachment as it is the default setting :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324060-imperial-fists-stone-gauntlet-help-1000-point-zm/#findComment-4451822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Removal of individual points costs, please! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324060-imperial-fists-stone-gauntlet-help-1000-point-zm/#findComment-4451835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thousand Eyes Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 If you are using battlescribe, make sure its not using allied detachment as it is the default setting I don't think I was, was there something I missed? Removal of individual points costs, please! Sorry about that, should be ok now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324060-imperial-fists-stone-gauntlet-help-1000-point-zm/#findComment-4452385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The laughing raven Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 are you using the new battlescribe app or the old one? as the app with a red outline will have all the updated points values and auto starts as an AoD force. Maybe swap the havoc launcher for breching charges on the sergs, apart from that I'm not sure you can do much else with a 1000pts to play with, with the FoC. Take it Polux with one unit and apoth with other? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324060-imperial-fists-stone-gauntlet-help-1000-point-zm/#findComment-4452415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thousand Eyes Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 Will double check I have the most up to date stuff on it. Using it via Android so should be easy to on the app store. There are actually two apothacaries, one for each unit. But yeah there isn't a lot that can be done with 1000 points but I was planning to just use that as much jump off point to be honest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324060-imperial-fists-stone-gauntlet-help-1000-point-zm/#findComment-4452441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The laughing raven Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 oops had missed the second one! What would you use on the next 1000pts and would you stay stone gauntlet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324060-imperial-fists-stone-gauntlet-help-1000-point-zm/#findComment-4452447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thousand Eyes Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 oops had missed the second one! What would you use on the next 1000pts and would you stay stone gauntlet? I'd like to stay Stone Gauntlet to represent the forces Pollux used in Crimson Fist. But I'd imagine throwing in a big tac squad wouldn't be a bad idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324060-imperial-fists-stone-gauntlet-help-1000-point-zm/#findComment-4455717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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