Charlo Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I mean, the book is out so yes :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324229-veterans-vs-seekers/page/2/#findComment-4471842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Clock Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Yeah, really apples and oranges in my books. As has been noted, Seekers are a more back field unit to my mind, whereas Vets are meant to be right in the thick of things. Mixing them together could be quite effective - 2x5-8 Seekers hanging back, 2x10 Vets in outflanking Rhinos (Sniper Heavy Flamers all day lol!) is a pretty decent start, and now that assault marines aren't terrible, they could run interference between front and back lines to 'close the circle' as it were. Aiming for about 200 pts per unit, you'd have 6 scoring units with lots of different capabilities for 1200, setting you in good stead for lists around 2-3k once you throw in a few 'heavy hitter' units. Cheers, The Good Doctor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324229-veterans-vs-seekers/page/2/#findComment-4474341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 "Aren't terrible"? Assault marines are now the best standard FOC troop unit. You take tactical marines because you need the Rhino or the Drop Pod they can bring, or you're World Eaters and everything you bring to the table is a melee monster. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324229-veterans-vs-seekers/page/2/#findComment-4474608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Even then... WE assault marines get chainaxes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324229-veterans-vs-seekers/page/2/#findComment-4474988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Clock Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I hear ya, Terminus... I haven't had the pleasure of trying out the ASMs in the Heresy yet, as I've been engaged in a Zone Mortalis campaign as Salamanders for the last couple months - Heresy is sort of just kicking off in my Club. As soon as this next tournament is done (over the weekend) I do indeed plan on bringing my World Eaters Army of Dark Compliance 'up to code'. I'm pretty stoked that my 16 Raptors will have a solid place in that force, as up till the rules update I was relatively sure they'd be sitting things out. Now they're efficient, fluffy, and smashy. Good times. Cheers, The Good Doctor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324229-veterans-vs-seekers/page/2/#findComment-4476721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I'm playing against iron hands later and running two squads of marksman vets (and 2 10 man kakophoni squads). It'll be interesting to see how they do. (Vastly better than tactical marines due to iron hands amazing -1s to shooting hopefully ...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324229-veterans-vs-seekers/page/2/#findComment-4477470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I hear ya, Terminus... I haven't had the pleasure of trying out the ASMs in the Heresy yet, as I've been engaged in a Zone Mortalis campaign as Salamanders for the last couple months - Heresy is sort of just kicking off in my Club. As soon as this next tournament is done (over the weekend) I do indeed plan on bringing my World Eaters Army of Dark Compliance 'up to code'. I'm pretty stoked that my 16 Raptors will have a solid place in that force, as up till the rules update I was relatively sure they'd be sitting things out. Now they're efficient, fluffy, and smashy. Good times. Cheers, The Good Doctor. There are no Raptors in a World Eater army. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324229-veterans-vs-seekers/page/2/#findComment-4477667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Shattered legions or count as assault marines maybe? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324229-veterans-vs-seekers/page/2/#findComment-4482069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
olsol Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Shred? Is that confirmed? Yep! They're pretty powerful Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324229-veterans-vs-seekers/page/2/#findComment-4482083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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