Lord Blackwood Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 So I was going to just take my Dark Angels to Dragonflight , I was set not to run my Imperial Fists at all And then .. I did a thing and got a thing ... so now I want to run my imperial fists too ... but im not 100% sure if I should abandon the Dark Angels I was working on for the event entirely or take a mix or what... anyway This is the Shattered Legion List +++ Shattered Legion Option (2500pts) +++ ++ Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List (Age of Darkness) (2500pts) ++ + HQ (610pts) + Legion Praetor (610pts) [Artificer Armour, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Legion Scimitar Jetbike with Heavy Bolter, Legiones Astartes, Master of the Legion, Molecular Acid Shells, Paragon Blade]Legion Command Squad [5x Combat Shield, Legion Scimitar Jetbikes with Heavy Bolters, 4x Legion Space Marine Chosen, Legion Standard Bearer, Legiones Astartes, Molecular Acid Shells, 3x Power Fist, 2x Power Weapon]Shattered LegionLegion Specific Rules [i: Dark Angels] + Troops (360pts) + Legion Tactical Squad (180pts) [Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legiones Astartes, Nuncio-Vox]Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour]Shattered LegionLegion Specific Rules [VII: Imperial Fists] Legion Tactical Squad (180pts) [Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legiones Astartes, Nuncio-Vox]Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour]Shattered LegionLegion Specific Rules [VII: Imperial Fists] + Fast Attack (525pts) + Legion Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron (305pts) [Legiones Astartes, Molecular Acid Shells, 6x Space Marine Sky Hunters, 2x Volkite Culverin]Shattered LegionLegion Specific Rules [i: Dark Angels]Sky Hunter Sergeant [Calibanite War Blade] Xiphon Interceptor (220pts) [Chaff Launcher, Ground-tracking Auguries, Interceptors] + Heavy Support (405pts) + Legion Sicaran Battle Tank (210pts) [Dozer Blade, Lascannons]Shattered LegionLegion Specific Rules [VII: Imperial Fists] Sicaran Venator Tank Destroyer (195pts) [Dozer Blade]Shattered LegionLegion Specific Rules [VII: Imperial Fists] + Legion + Legion Astartes [i: Dark Angels, Loyalist, Shattered Legions, VII: Imperial Fists] + Lord of War (600pts) + Legion Falchion Super-heavy Tank Destroyer (600pts) [Armoured Ceramite, Space Marine Legion Crew]Shattered LegionLegion Specific Rules [VII: Imperial Fists]Twin-linked Volcano Cannon [Neutron Wave Capacitor] And This the the Pure Imperial Fists Option +++ Do You Insist that I Fist (2500pts) +++ ++ Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List (Age of Darkness) (2500pts) ++ + HQ (365pts) + Legion Centurion (135pts) [Artificer Armour, Combat Shield, Solarite Power Gauntlet]Consul [Primus Medicae]Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] Sigismund (230pts) [Master of the Legion]Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] + Troops (610pts) + Legion Tactical Squad (170pts) [Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines]Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour]Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] Legion Tactical Squad (170pts) [Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines]Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour]Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] Templar Brethren (270pts) [6x Combat Shield, 6x Templar Brethren]Chapter Champion [Combat Shield, Solarite Power Gauntlet]Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] + Elites (210pts) + Legion Quad Launcher Support Battery (210pts) [shatter Shell]Legion Rapier Quad LauncherLegiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]Legion Rapier Quad LauncherLegiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]Legion Rapier Quad LauncherLegiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] + Fast Attack (115pts) + Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod (115pts) + Heavy Support (600pts) + Legion Sicaran Battle Tank (205pts) [Lascannons] Legion Sicaran Battle Tank (205pts) [Lascannons] Sicaran Venator Tank Destroyer (190pts) + Legion + Legion Astartes [Loyalist, VII: Imperial Fists] + Lord of War (600pts) + Legion Falchion Super-heavy Tank Destroyer (600pts) [Armoured Ceramite, Space Marine Legion Crew]Twin-linked Volcano Cannon [Neutron Wave Capacitor] Do you think I should shift stuff around in the lists ? Which do you think I should run? D: Pls Community of good friends and avid 30k enthusiasts halp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 You need 1 HQ with the Appropriate Legion for each Legion you want to include in a Shattered Legions List. No IF HQ, no IF Squads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 It was my understanding that, that related to specialist units hmmmmmm HMMMMM I GUESS THAT MEANS ILL HAVE TO RUN THE PURE IMPERIAL FISTS LIST THEN HUH SLIPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Or, just slap an IF HQ in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 How would you go about doing it ? Do you think the Shattered list is superior to the other one? Even if you shift around some stuff for an HQ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Depends. In either case, you're running minimum tac squads outside of rhino which, as you know from my rhetoric, isn't the greatest. For shattered Legions, you might just be better off running it as pure Dark Angels. The IF you're bringing do absolutely nothing special for you. For the IF, you want a Siege Breaker for Phosphex. At the end of the day, 2.5k is probably too low for what you're trying to accomplish especially with a Falchion soaking up 600 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 D: but... both lists they have rhinos ? Unless you mean cutting the rhinos to generate the points. All my stuffs painted so its mildly difficult to run pure dark Angels unless I run an entirely different list @ n @ for I am weak and if it is black and yellow it cannot be a DA unit and if it is Red and Black I wont call it an IF unit ! DAMN YOU OCD S'far as the Imperial Fists list , do you really reckon ill need the phosphex ? I could always drop one of the Sicarian battle tanks if you reckon a siege breaker is that needed then ill put one in some artificer armor and stick him with the dreadclaw squad so he can toss a phosphex bomb or something XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 .... .... ... Yeah, for some reason, I'm not used to reading "rhino" at the start of a unit entry. ++++ For the IF, Phosphex and Shatter Shells are pretty much the best options they have access to. 36 Ap3 Small Blasts pretty much solves all your anti-infantry problems while also dealing with any MC problems due to poisoned 3+ and with Crawling Death, you get to reposition each blast 2" So long as it covers more models even if its a direct hit. Also, do you really need a Venator when your Falchion does literally the same thing but on a Larger Scale especially with the Capacitor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 So yer guidance would lead me to this conclusion just about. +++ Do You Insist that I Fist (2500pts) +++ ++ Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List (Age of Darkness) (2495pts) ++ + HQ (490pts) + Legion Centurion (125pts) [Combat Shield, Power Armour, Solarite Power Gauntlet]Consul [Primus Medicae]Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] Legion Centurion (140pts) [Artificer Armour, Refractor Field, Phosphex Bombs, Power Weapon]Consul [siege Breaker]Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] Sigismund (230pts) [Master of the Legion]Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] + Troops (610pts) + Legion Tactical Squad (170pts) [Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines]Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour]Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] Legion Tactical Squad (170pts) [Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines]Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour]Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] Templar Brethren (270pts) [6x Combat Shield, 6x Templar Brethren]Chapter Champion [Combat Shield, Solarite Power Gauntlet]Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] + Elites (270pts) + Legion Quad Launcher Support Battery (270pts) [Phosphex Canister Shot, Shatter Shell]Legion Rapier Quad LauncherLegiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]Legion Rapier Quad LauncherLegiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]Legion Rapier Quad LauncherLegiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] + Fast Attack (115pts) + Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod (115pts) + Heavy Support (410pts) + Legion Sicaran Battle Tank (205pts) [Lascannons] Legion Sicaran Battle Tank (205pts) [Lascannons] + Legion + Legion Astartes [Loyalist, VII: Imperial Fists] + Lord of War (600pts) + Legion Falchion Super-heavy Tank Destroyer (600pts) [Armoured Ceramite, Space Marine Legion Crew]Twin-linked Volcano Cannon [Neutron Wave Capacitor]Theres five floating points there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Use the 5 to give the SB a Refractor/Boarding. Don't forget he also has a Nuncio for spotting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 you just relegated my dark angels to the bench for this event Slips D: hows that make you feel , also thank you for the help friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I mean, if you had more bikes (jet or otherwise) you'd have been able to run Ravenwing. Sooo yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 oh I can run ravenwing , I 6 plasma outriders and 6 regular punchy outriders , but I want to use my Falchion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 In that case, yeah, you're stuck without the Falchion or RoW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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