Nightmare84 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Hey everyone, going to a friendly event soon and decided to take my death guard. im not planning on taking a WAAC army and rather keep it as fluffy as possible while hopefully not being steamrolled. Calas Typhon- xxx 20x tacticals- Art armor, scythe, rad grenades- 270 20x tacticals- Art armor, scythe, rad grenades- 270 4x deathshroud terms- melta bombs, land raider phobos- 435 7x destroyers- 1x missile launchers, rhino , 1x phosphex bomb- 270 3xpredators- (1x magna melta bolters and machine spirit, 2x plasma and bolters) 465 2x medusa- 310 leviathan- claw/drill. flamers w/ chem, phosphex- 290 i plan on completely ignoring (slightly wishing) the possibility of fliers. i havent noticed many around but you never know. i think i have most bases covered except fliers but i just couldnt fit a mortis in for the life of me. other units at my disposal Mortarion (we may have a large team game so he may see table time anyway) 2x contemptor mortis with assault cannons (1 unpainted) contemptor with dual ccw 10x grave wardens also unpainted 20 man tactical 5x heavy support with flamers may be more im forgetting but cant remember for now thanks guys Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324399-death-guard-2500/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I like it, except for sadly the coolness that is destroyers. Really, all they bring is a single red missile a turn for almost 300 points! I'd drop them and instead focus n getting a few more things in: Drop pod for the Leviathan - without it hes going to be walking and with no ranged weapon, not doing a lot. Apothecary's for the Tactical squads - the FNP will greatly help them get where they need to be in numbers. Extra CCW on the Tacs - lets them be a bit more versatile. But, they are a really cool unit - so I can see why you'd want to bring them :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324399-death-guard-2500/#findComment-4456628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare84 Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 Whoops. I didnt write it but was using the reaping RoW so no drop pods :| I know what you mean about destroyers, crazy over priced but they are so fluffy and i rarely had a chance to use them. May test them out a bit more before I decide. I had 2 apoths in there but the destroyers soaked up all their points. Maybe I'll try trading out destroyers. In lieu of 6x grave wardens and 2 apoths how about that?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324399-death-guard-2500/#findComment-4456866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 You'll need a transport for those Wardens for sure, which in lies the problem. If you are using those guys then you have to lose a heavy support, which may well be the leviathan, as without deep strike it's a little iffy. I'd ask what the Reaping is providing you beyond some Rad Grenades on the Tacticals too, as all it's doing it stopping you from Deep Striking - as Typhon already has Rads in his wargear. I'd also say that Typhon is a bad fit to roll with the Deathshroud as his Cataphractii armour stops them from sweeping! I feel for you though, as you are running into the same problems as me when I wanted to list hammer Deathguard - making it fluffy is hard! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324399-death-guard-2500/#findComment-4456871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Have to agree with Charlo. You aren't having any benefit from the reaping. No extra heavy squads etc. Typhoon already has rad. He does slow the shroud down tho but so does the reaping as stops run move. I'd be inclined to drop the shroud and raider and take 10 gravewardens and rain chemical death. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324399-death-guard-2500/#findComment-4457361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 The destroyers are rule of cool but that's alot of points. I've got ten but yet to use them after mincing my friends with one barrage first turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324399-death-guard-2500/#findComment-4457363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare84 Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share Posted August 4, 2016 ok lets try a rewrite then. im not at home so my costs on some things may be a little off typhon- xxx (pride of legion) 20x tacticals- art armour and scythe, vexilla- 270 10x veterans- rhino, 2x heavy flamers w/ chem. art armor and scythe. 250?? 5x deathshroud- land raider phobos- 455 9x grave wardens- 2x chainfists. 345 1x apothecary. aug scanner- 50 2x predator ( 2x plasma and bolters) leviathan. claw/drill phosphex- 290 2x medusa- 310 2470. so can trick out something a little bit. grave wardens are walking w/ typhon but im hoping i have enough armor that I hope they wont take too much heat. i should have some time on sunday to give it a test run on sunday but will probably be against a 40k-er so it probably wont tell me much of its weakness if any. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324399-death-guard-2500/#findComment-4457392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 No reason to take tacs if you have pride IMO! They are far superior and also pretty damn fluffy for DG! You could even footslog outflank them and do major damage, the cheaper cost makes them just so good. Otherwise it's pretty nice :) Wardens walking is iffy, but still cool! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324399-death-guard-2500/#findComment-4457556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 You have 4 Heavy Support choices Nightmare84 - Grave Wardens do not become Troops in Pride of the Legion, as they are Heavy Support, not Elites. Footslogging them is a major risk - they may get blown to bits, or they may achieve absolutely nothing if your opponent avoids them. I'd definitely drop a few of them and take a Spartan to cart them around. Yes, the Veteran Squad you have listed is 250 points. I'd take "Marksmen" on them for sweet, sweet re-rolls on Sniper heavy flamers! :) Also, maybe consider a dozer blade for the Rhino? Totally agree with Charlo about the Veterans-over-Tacticals - they are so good now. A second squad like the one above is a good idea. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324399-death-guard-2500/#findComment-4457700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare84 Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 Balls, I completely missed the heavy support choices. rewrite it is then. i really the reaping RoW and i think its a nice way to have a fluffy army so here i go. RoW The Reaping Delegatus- scythe, tartaros armorur, rad grenades- 115 4x deathshroud melta bombs, land raider phobos- 415 2x apoth w/ aug scanners- 100 Contemptor mortis- assault cannons 20x tacticals- scythe, AA, rad grenades,- 270 20x tacticals- scythe, AA, rad grenades,- 270 10x vets, scythe, rad, AA, 2x flamers rhino- 260 2x medusa- 310 2x predator- plasma/bolters- 300 leviathan. claw/drill phosphex- 290 comes to 2510 so have to drop AA or grenades off someone. Reaping is giving me grenades everywhere plus a extra scoring unit (now 4) which i think is pretty good to most HH armies. atleast in my area. for 3k i would probably add Morty and swap delegatus for Siege breaker giving me phosphex shells for the medusas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324399-death-guard-2500/#findComment-4464010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Not too sure about it... It doesn't seem to work for me. Can't quite put my figure on it but I'll try with a few observations - I feel the preds and Levi don't add much. A footsloging combat Levi seems a bit of a waste in my opinion. I'd put the points into a unit of grave wardens in l.r or Spartan I think - 20 man tac squads on foot is a pain in the ass. They will die easily and won't get anywhere fast due to inevitably having to move through difficult terrain, especially as the reaping doesn't let you run. I'd maybe just go for 2 X 10 in rhinos. Troops done - vets, not sure. Depends what their roll is but maybe if you want chemical munitions, just wack a heavy flamer squad in a rhino thus utilising the reaping a little better - I'd keep the medusas without phosphex, str10 will do more damage - contemptor is an ok choice but not a huge fan - really like to see Calas in this list as I love him Sorry it's a bit of a miss match of words! I tried to articulate as best I could! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324399-death-guard-2500/#findComment-4464113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare84 Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 Levi is a great distraction. And can tank a fair few anti tank shots. -Sniper flamer vets work a dream at the moment. Refilling wounds with chance at ap2. Foot slogging is fluffy and I got move through cover so I shouldn't be too slow. I'm not sold on the contemptor either I initially had 3x quad guns in there - I love calas and wardens too but so hard to fit him with with a spartan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324399-death-guard-2500/#findComment-4464186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Put some Phosphex Quadguns in there if you want Phosphex - the Medusas are much better left stock with S10 AP2. The Leviathan sure is a Distraction... but with not too long a range and costing almost 300 points, when does it go from Distraction to points sink? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324399-death-guard-2500/#findComment-4464235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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