Atia Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Now that everyone should be cool as we have picture confirmations - will there be a dedicated sub-forum for the Deathwatch? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Where Deathwatch will be housed is being discussed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4457903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Just what I was going to say. ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4457906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Its an army now, It should have its own sub forum, that is until it inevitable absorption into a larger army in the next iteration of the codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4457953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 As Grey Knights (and the Inquisition) is under the Adeptus Astartes banner... here is hoping the Deathwatch could be added with the other big brother space marine codexes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4458124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 How about having a "Chambers Militant" subforum? IIRC the Adepta Sororitas isn't (aren't?) considered as being an Order Militant of the Inquisition any more so the Deathwatch and Grey Knights could perhaps share a subforum (since they share a similar theme and are not "high trafic" armies)?Just a suggestion, mind you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4458148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share Posted August 4, 2016 How about having an "Orders Militant" subforum? IIRC the Adepta Sororitas isn't considered as being an Order Militant of the Inquisition any more so the Deathwatch and Grey Knights could perhaps share a subforum (since they share a similar theme and are not "high trafic" armies)? Â Just a suggestion, mind you. I honestly thought about that too. Maybe with a seperate rules/armylists sub-sub-forum or so? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4458177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Should Deathwatch and Grey Knights share an army list subforum or each has their own? The latter seems more likely, since there probably wouldn't be all that much traffic (on the long term). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4458179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share Posted August 4, 2016 Deathwatch AND Grey Knights share an army list subforum or each has their own? The latter seems more likely, since there probably wouldn't be all that much traffic (on the long term). Yeah maybe something like this: I honestly have no clue how many people visit the army list sub-forums. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4458187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 As with any new Codex we are already talking ideas. Then once enough of the crew have a copy we will make a final decision. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4458285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Deathwatch AND Grey Knights share an army list subforum or each has their own? The latter seems more likely, since there probably wouldn't be all that much traffic (on the long term). Yeah maybe something like this: I honestly have no clue how many people visit the army list sub-forums. Shouldn't that be DEATHWATCH & Grey Knights? JUST joking!! Actually, GK & DW is how they appeared in White Dwarf 259 (Aug 2001), "Index Astartes: Purge the Unclean - The Grey Knights & Deathwatch Chapters", pages 44-47 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4458421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 How about having an "Orders Militant" subforum? IIRC the Adepta Sororitas isn't (aren't?) considered as being an Order Militant of the Inquisition any more so the Deathwatch and Grey Knights could perhaps share a subforum (since they share a similar theme and are not "high trafic" armies)? Â Just a suggestion, mind you. They are called Chambers Militant. An Order Militant refers to an Adepta Sororitas Order that carries bolters. The Orders Hospitaler, Famulous, Diologus, Pronatus, and Sabine are the types of Non-Militant Orders. Note that these are categories, not single Orders (ex. the Order of the Key and the Order of the Gate are two Orders Famulous based at the Convent Sanctorum on Ophelia VII). Â Also, I was under the impression that the Orders Militant still served as the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Hereticus, but I may be wrong on that one. Whatever their relationship with the Inquisition, it is important to remember that the Adepta Sororitas are primarily a branch of the Adeptus Ministorum, and any Inquisitorial designation is secondary. Â Edit: Well, I don't see any mention of the Inquisiton in the current codex. So I maybe the Orders Militant are no longer a Chamber Militant. Fine by me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4458906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Thanks for correcting me, Servant of Dante. I knew it didn't sound right but I couldn't figure out why and you've put your finger right on it. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4458915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 In my humble opinion: the B&C has a forum for each army that has a Codex. So it stands to reason that the Deathwatch should have their own stand-alone forum. Â Having said that, it's placement could be in the "Forces of the Imperium" forum. Army List sub forum included. Â Bouncing from that, and to more closely follow the current Imperial organization, the Grey Knights could move to the FotI forum as well. Â Thus, all three Chamber Militants are under one umbrella forum which includes a forum dedicated to the Inquisition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4459277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 In my humble opinion: the B&C has a forum for each army that has a Codex. So it stands to reason that the Deathwatch should have their own stand-alone forum. Â Having said that, it's placement could be in the "Forces of the Imperium" forum. Army List sub forum included. Â Bouncing from that, and to more closely follow the current Imperial organization, the Grey Knights could move to the FotI forum as well. Â Thus, all three Chamber Militants are under one umbrella forum which includes a forum dedicated to the Inquisition. I personally think it would make sense for all the Astartes forums (including DW and GK) to be in the Adeptus Astartes section, but that's really just personal taste. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4459424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 If this goes ahead I'll be setting up shop in the DW forum Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4459473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Well. I always assumed the board paralleled Gw organization. If they designate the faction as adeptus astartes: deathwatch, then it belongs grouped with the other AA armies. Â Everyone else's opinions are valid to me, but we should be consistent. We should stick to a more obvious organization so that the forum remains intuitive to frater and new comers alike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4459903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Well hopefully we will get the final verdict once the codex is in. Â Â Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4460133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 At this stage, it's less a case of 'we need a Deathwatch board' and more a case of 'why do we still have a Adepta Sororitas board.' Might as well shift them under the 'Agents of the Imperium' board. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4460486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 At this stage, it's less a case of 'we need a Deathwatch board' and more a case of 'why do we still have a Adepta Sororitas board.' Might as well shift them under the 'Agents of the Imperium' board. They still have a valid Codex. Why would they get merged with another subforum? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4460493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 At this stage, it's less a case of 'we need a Deathwatch board' and more a case of 'why do we still have a Adepta Sororitas board.' Might as well shift them under the 'Agents of the Imperium' board. The AS forum is plenty active. I would prefer you didn't make uniformed assumptions about the 1 place on this forum I really care about. Â In fact, only the IG forum has more replies that the AS forum under the Forces of the Imperium heading, but I gess that may be partly due to how long each of those forums has been around. Â Â Â At this stage, it's less a case of 'we need a Deathwatch board' and more a case of 'why do we still have a Adepta Sororitas board.' Might as well shift them under the 'Agents of the Imperium' board. They still have a valid Codex. Why would they get merged with another subforum? Â Thank you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4460528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 At this stage, it's less a case of 'we need a Deathwatch board' and more a case of 'why do we still have a Adepta Sororitas board.' Might as well shift them under the 'Agents of the Imperium' board. Â You know that outside of the Astra Militarum and massed Mechanicus legions, Sisters are perchaps the only thing that can be called power armoured army on this board? As in, real army, not small company sized strike forces Astartes use. Each of major Sister orders has thousands of warriors and hundreds of vehicles, not to mention sworn allies in PDF and IG regiments of their planets. Even small Sister orders easily rival SM Chapters in size even without calling the faithful under their banners so lumping them with singular agents would be a rather dumb change, IMHO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4460536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 The Sororitas Board is not up for discussion. Let's steer back on to the topic at hand, please. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4460542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 The Guard section is much newer, so that's not exactly a metric to be using as a comparison anyway. The B&C will make decisions that reflect what is best for the B&C, not necessarily mirroring what GW does. Until we have all the information a decision can't be made, but it does look like under Armies of the Imperium makes the most sense to me - the question would be if it should be merged with the Inquisition directly or not. Seems like it may be the latter, even if they do come under the same auspices? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4460705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Alright folks, until a final decision is made, once material is released for Deathwatch, go ahead and discuss in the Codex: Space Marine forum, and hopefully we'll be able to move some/most/all of it over to whatever the Deathwatch's final forum home will be. It may take a little bit of time after release, don't expect to see something automatically pop up tomorrow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324470-deathwatch-sub-forum/#findComment-4465870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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