Riot Earp Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Hi there everybody here is my attemped to make my first HH Army list. Heavy flamer from units got an ecchange for assault cannons. Centurion goes with one squad the chaplain (Consul?) goes within the other squad. Contemptor Legion Centurion 115 Bolt pistol - 1 x Blade of Perdition - Melta-bombs - Artificer armour - Refractor field - Jump pack Chaplain 150 Boltpistol - 1 x Blade of Perdition - Melta-bombs - Artificer armour - Refractor field - Jump pack Contemptor Cortus Dreadnought Talon 160 Fist Assault Cannon (Flamer) Kheres Assault Cannon Legion Assault Squad 360 14 Assault Marine - 2 x Power weapon Assault Sergeant - Pair of lightning claws - Artificer armour Legion Assault Squad 353 14 Assault Marine - 2 x Power weapon Assault Sergeant - Bolt pistol - Power fist -Combat Shield - Artificer armour - - - > 298 Punkte Legion Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron 85 Javelin Attack Speeder - Twin-linked lascannon - Ass Cannon Legion Sicaran Battle Tank 190 Lascannon sponsons Dozer blade Axiliary Drive Fireraptor 220 TL Assault Cannon Leviathan Cybot 365 Storm cannon Drill Phosphex discharger 2 x Assault Cannon (Flamer) 1998 I have some other models ready for HH too. 4 Quad Mortars (Cheap Proxy from Nebelwerfer) 1 Deredo with auto cannons and hf Second Contemptor with Kheres. Any thoughts? Is this list playable? I will fought against our heretic brothers (no realy ideas what he´s going to field). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 You will need a Praetor for the Day of Remembrance Rite of War. Other than that, the chaplain with an assault squad is a solid choice, IMO. You also don't have to give the Chaplain a power maul if you don't want to, you have all the power weapon options. Sword could be good to take advantage of the +1I, but you do risk getting bogged down by 2+ saves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4464181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Yeah, swap out that Centurion for a Preator and tool him up as appropriate (Paragon Blade/ Perdition, Iron Halo, Digilasers etc). Chaplains are very cool for us, making us hit more and thus bringing our easier +1 to wound to bare. Ever consul should get a blade of perdition too... It's SUPER powerful. Twin lightning claws on the assault sarge probably aren't worth it. BA (especially in the DoR RoW) always need to challenge, and all enemy characters will have a 2+ save. It's better to just give him an axe or something and use the fact you wound on a 2+ to ensure a clean kill. The Combat shield's 5++ may also save you. Apothecarys can take jump packs in the heresy now too (at the expense of not taking artificer armour) so I'd definitely try and get some in for your Assault Squads. Does that Leviathan have a pod? If not, get it one. You can put him in front and give your assault squads a 3+ Cover save on turn one if the enemy shoots through it. I'd probably drop the Cortus though, one isn't going to do much and you have more than enough dakka and killing power elsewhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4464189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 Sorry for the formation but i made the list in excel (@work). Next try. Legion Praetor 115 Bolt pistol - 1 x Blade of Perdition - Melta-bombs - Artificer armour - Refractor field - Jump pack Chaplain 150 Boltpistol - 1 x Blade of Perdition - Melta-bombs - Artificer armour - Refractor field - Jump pack 2x Apothecary 120 JP 1x Power sword Legion Assault Squad 378 1´5 Assault Marine - 2 x Power weapon Assault Sergeant - Bolt pistol - Power fist -Combat Shield Melter Bomb - Artificer armour - - - > 298 Punkte Legion Assault Squad 373 1´5 Assault Marine - 2 x Power weapon Assault Sergeant - Bolt pistol - Power fist -Combat Shield - Artificer armour - - - > 298 Punkte Legion Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron 85 Javelin Attack Speeder - Twin-linked lascannon - Ass Cannon Legion Sicaran Battle Tank 190 Lascannon sponsons Dozer blade Axiliary Drive Fireraptor 220 TL Assault Cannon Leviathan Cybot 365 Storm cannon Drill Phosphex discharger 2 x Assault Cannon (Flamer) Dread Pod 1996 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4464208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 You still need a Preator instead of the Centurion to run the Rite of War (Day of Revelation!) OR to save points you could have a Delegatus Consul instead, which is probably a better idea as he only costs 15 points to upgrade :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4464220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 Changed it on onlinecodex but not in the excel sheet. I need battlescribe!!! Legion Praetor 150 Bolt pistol - 1 x Blade of Perdition - Artificer armour - Refractor field - Jump pack Chaplain 150 Boltpistol - 1 x Powerfist - Melta-bombs - Artificer armour - Refractor field - Jump pack 2x Apothecary 120 JP Legion Assault Squad 378 15 Assault Marine - 2 x Power weapon Assault Sergeant - Bolt pistol - Power fist -Combat Shield Melter Bomb - Artificer armour - - - > 375 Punkte Legion Assault Squad 373 14 Assault Marine - 2 x Power weapon Assault Sergeant - Bolt pistol - Power fist -Combat Shield - Artificer armour - - - > 358 Punkte Legion Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron 85 Javelin Attack Speeder - Twin-linked lascannon - Ass Cannon Legion Sicaran Battle Tank 190 Lascannon sponsons Dozer blade Axiliary Drive Fireraptor 220 TL Assault Cannon Leviathan Cybot 365 Storm cannon Drill Phosphex discharger 2 x Assault Cannon (Flamer) Dread Pod 2001 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4464253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Yes get battle scribe, it's only like £2.50 but so so worth it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4464274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 All your costs are the old costs. You should have about 150 more points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4464723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 Thank you. I realized it yet. Dread Drop Pod is 20 MB expensive. Holy Moly. Have to rework the list. More to follow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4465041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Aye - but Assault Marines are 75points cheaper base now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4465116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 So intentionaly i planed to field one centurion and one chaplain consul. So would i get the rites of war through only the consul-upgrade? Are assault cannon heavy support guys viable? They put out alot of shots but are either objektive sitting or driving in a rhino snap shooting for 1or two turns. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4465151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Not really, they look cool and maybe good for short range defence work, but they are a heavy support choice. You'd be better with Baal preds or the fabled baalcador for that one Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4465168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 The only Consuls that let you run a Rite of War are the Delegatus and the Heraldor. Otherwise you need a Preator. And sadly, assault cannon marines are pretty crappy, unless you are in a very small game/ board (or put a lot of points into them to get a Vigilator to scout forward etc), use Dakka Preds/ Attack Bikes instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4465176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 Baalcador the pred with ass. cannon sponsons and pintle moint ac? I could put some magnets on two asscannons and put them on my already magnetized Baal Pred. I found some cheap 5 x Ass Cannon FW Heavy squad for 30 Bucks from asia so i will give them a go for the rule of cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4465178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Hell yeah, rule of cool! It's pretty awesome that we can field units of Arnie from most of his films.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4465213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Baalcador the pred with ass. cannon sponsons and pintle moint ac? I could put some magnets on two asscannons and put them on my already magnetized Baal Pred. I found some cheap 5 x Ass Cannon FW Heavy squad for 30 Bucks from asia so i will give them a go for the rule of cool. Baalcador- the malcador with battle canon, demolisher canon and 3 assault cannons!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4465277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 A nice wwii tank style vehicle but i think it will just not fit my style :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4465460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 And style is important. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4465940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I think assault cannon marines could have some game. 10 of them will hit 7 times even snapfiring, and an augury scanner would make anyone hesitant to deep strike anywhere near them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4466307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I think assault cannon marines could have some game. 10 of them will hit 7 times even snapfiring, and an augury scanner would make anyone hesitant to deep strike anywhere near them. Actually yeah, for the cost that is some DAMN fine deep strike insurance for the black line. Taking up a heavy slot is regrettable, but oh well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4467841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted August 15, 2016 Author Share Posted August 15, 2016 Maybe i can test the list tomorrow. Dropped the Sicaran for the Derdeo. I´m expecting at least one fighter so he has a chance to intercept him and do some hurt on vehicles and meq. Punkte Praetor 165 JP Iron halo Blade of Perdition artifact armor Chaplain Consul 125 JP artifact armor Elite Apothecary 130 2x JP 1 x Power Weapon Quad Mortar 120 2x Troop Assault Squad x14 280 2 x Axe Meltabomb Art. Armour Combat shield Powerfist Assault Squad x14 280 2 x Axe Meltabomb Art. Armour Combat shield Powerfist Fast Javelin Attack Speeder 70 TL Laser Assault Cannon Heavy Deredeo 220 Heavy Bolter Alosius Launcher Leviathan Siege Dread 300 Storm Cannon Discharger Drill Assault Cannon Pod 100 Fireraptor 210 Autocannon 2000 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4468086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Sicaran VS Deredeo is a good choice, though remember while the Deredeo is pretty damn insane at it - the Sicaran ignores Jink, so is worth considering if not. I love the Deredeo though, it straight up ends things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4468094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted August 15, 2016 Author Share Posted August 15, 2016 I think i will not face so many jinking units as in 40k so i find the deredeo more viable on paper. Deredeo got his 5++ vs Vehicle cover is difficult to get this times. Although the sicaran could not use one of his sponsons if in cover. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4468171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare84 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Sicarian looks sexier though, and ignoring jink is huge Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4469086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 One sicaran was in the game but it was not mine. ;) I like the model too but i thought the deredeo was more durable. Here is written how things went. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317869-riot-earps-blood-angels-and-imperial-allies/?p=4470220 I lost my praetor an apothecary and the assault squad through deep strike misshap. Are there any boni/items we can get to scatter only one d6 or less? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324653-blood-angels-dor-2000-points/#findComment-4470252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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