01RTB01 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Evening all, Just wondering for a start point if vet tactical marines are allowed combi bolters now? They're allowed combi weapons so assuming they're allowed combi bolters? If so, squads including combi bolters worth it? Combined with sniper you're getting twin-linked and 2 shots each up close that pseudo rend. What do you reckon? (I've been running mine with combi meltas post red book update but wondered about the twin linking or just double up on vets?! (10 for a combi vs 12 for a vet...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Ultimately its just a bolter, so even if it was available I probably wouldn't do it. It be what 22pts each at that point? That's only 10 points less than a Terminator with 2+ and an invuln and a power weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/#findComment-4469779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanct Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 combi-bolter =/= combi weapon Combi weapon is a bolter with a one use special weapon. Combi bolter is a twinlinked bolter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/#findComment-4469823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 combi-bolter =/= combi weapon Combi weapon is a bolter with a one use special weapon. Combi bolter is a twinlinked bolter. That was my thinking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/#findComment-4469888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I see it as just another combi weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/#findComment-4469931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 It does not qualify as a combi weapon as an option, it's in the faq. Combi weapons have a 1 time use component. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/#findComment-4470107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 It sadly is not a combi weapon, just a lovely silly naming convention. Getting re-rolls on those snipers would've been cool though! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/#findComment-4470346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Not worth the points for twin Linking them, imo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/#findComment-4470432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Heres a thought: In 30k, Combi-Grenade Launchers are a thing. They fire dinky little frag grenades or krak. Tac Vets can have Sniper for "Rending" Small Blasts. Is it worth it vs a combi-flamer? Maybe. But its something else in the tool box since it means you aren't limited to killing stuff within the flamer template due to the grenade launchers range. It also means you could fire "Rending" S6 Shots too if thats what was required. +++ I'm not too sure on Combi-Volkites. I'd have to re-read Deflagrate but does it keep the same Strength and Ap as the original hit that caused Deflagrate to trigger? If so thats some Ap2 Deflagrate potential right there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/#findComment-4470448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 It says: "Immediately resolve a number of additional automatic hits on the same unit using the weapon's profile equal to the number of unsaved wounds - these can then be saved normally." Emphasis mine. Not going to mean bonus Rends unfortunately. The combi-grenade idea is interesting though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/#findComment-4470514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 So basically you use the Volkite's strength, but don't get it's AP. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/#findComment-4470654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Don't terminators carry combi bolters standard ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/#findComment-4470759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Don't terminators carry combi bolters standard ? They do. But that isn't really related. Love the sniping grenade templates though... Some real application to be had there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/#findComment-4470785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 It does not qualify as a combi weapon as an option, it's in the faq. Combi weapons have a 1 time use component. Can you please link to the FAQ ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/#findComment-4470858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Do all combi-weapons in the Space Marine Legion Army list follow the rules published in the new 40K rulebook? Horus Heresy-era combi-weapons have their own range of secondary weapon options which differ from their 41st Millennium counterparts, as shown in the 7th edition rulebook. These are as follows:•Flamer•Meltagun•Plasma gun•Grenade launcher (frag or krak – choose which type when fired)•Volkite chargerThe bolter component of the weapon may be used any number of times in the game, the secondary weapon may only be used once. https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Horus_Heresy_7th_Edition.pdf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/#findComment-4470944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Thanks ! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/#findComment-4471058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Yeah, that ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324814-vet-tactical-marines-with-marksman-and-combi-bolters/#findComment-4471147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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