EdwardBarfield9 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Hi all, since I started playing around 2005/2006 I've always fancied an army of Sisters, so after a decade of being unsure on if I definitely want to buy them I have brought the first part of my army, the heavy support section. Before I post the list some things to know: I don't have a meta I don't do tournaments I'm not bothered about having a super competitive list I prefer fun and diversity above winning I'd get Immolators however due to how I can really only get them built and/or painted off of ebay I will wait until I need some Here is my list: HQ 1 Saint Celestine Elite Celestian Squad -1 Celestian Superior -6 Celesian w/Bolt Pistol -1 Celestian w/Flamer -1 Celestine w/Heavy Flamer -1 Celestine w/Simulacrum Imperialis Celestian Squad -1 Celestian Superior -6 Celesian w/Bolt Pistol -1 Celestian w/Flamer -1 Celestine w/Heavy Flamer -1 Celestine w/Simulacrum Imperialis Repentia Squad -1 Misstress of Repentance -9 Sister Repentia -1 Sororitas Rhino Troop Battle Sister Squad -6 Battle Sisters -1 Battle Sister with Flamer -1 Battle Sister with Meltagun -1 Battle Sister with Simulacrum Imperialis -1 Sister Superior -1 Sororitas Rhino Battle Sister Squad -6 Battle Sisters -2 Battle Sister with Flamer -1 Battle Sister with Simulacrum Imperialis -1 Sister Superior -1 Sororitas Rhino Battle Sister Squad -6 Battle Sisters -2 Battle Sister with Meltagun -1 Battle Sister with Simulacrum Imperialis -1 Sister Superior -1 Sororitas Rhino Fast Attack Serephim Squad -4 Serephim -2 Serephim with Hand Flamers -1 Serephim Superior Serephim Squad -4 Serephim -2 Serephim with Hand Flamers -1 Serephim Superior Serephim Squad -4 Serephim -2 Serephim with Hand Flamers -1 Serephim Superior Heavy Support Exorcist Exorcist Penitant Engine Squadron -3 Penitant Engine Other Models -2 Rhino -1 Cannoness -1 Ministorium Preist* -1 Uriah Jacobus -1 Avenger Strike Fighter *I'm not sure how many I will end up getting Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324859-first-sisters-list/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Welcome to the Ecclesiarchy! I was unsure about a Sisters army for a while, but it only took me a year to make up my mind after I first condidered the option, but truly the Emperor provides for his faithful. Well, I can't claim to be an expert, and I'm posting from mobile, but here are my thoughts: There is really no reason to bring Celestians. They have the same options as a BSS, and their AoF (Act of Faith) is much less useful, in my opinion. If you want those bodies, save some points and take more troop choices. You're going to have to work to make your repentia do anything. Remember they are really squishy and they are not in an assault transport. Jacobus is a good option as a Warlord if you join him to Repentia as he increases their invuln and lets them use their 3+ FnP twice. Remember we are only T3. It might just be the models you have, but I feel the BSS with the flamer and the meltagun is a little unfocused. If you can open up points for them and have the models, heavy flamers are also assault weapons. I like the Seraphim! I've not really nailed using them yet: I think I expect them to do too much in assault, and I usually get them killed by shooting, but I love them. Look for advice from others! Only thing to mention is that melta dominions in immolators are great, especially since they can outflank. I suppose you could do it in a rhino, but then you're missing out on that TL-multi melta, and the fun of using thenSisters signature vehicle. The HS section looks solid. Those PEs should be fun. Finally, be sure to check out the Unit of the Week threads! We've done the whole codex, and the Repressor (Avenger strike fighter is next). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324859-first-sisters-list/#findComment-4471503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Firstly, welcome to the B+C! I'm hardly an expert either but still, here are a few thoughts: To get around the lack of available Immolators, you could use the Immolator turret sprue that comes with the Exorcist and use the alternate Rhino door (the one with the circle hole) and mount it on that. That's what I'm doing and whilst it's true that it would lose an inch or two in firing range, I'm sure in friendly games, the other player would/could over look that. I'm fully prepared to put up with the loss just to field them though. Here's what I mean: Hidden Content I've been advised that Seraphim are best used with Celestine as an escort. It would certainly be a sight to see on the gaming table Ministorum Priests/Jacobus are, from what has been discussed lately are very useful if deployed well. For more information then their "Unit of the Week" topic will go into more infomation. Links to the "Unit of the Week" set of topics are here: Unit of the Week XVI - Sororitas Rhino. Servant of Dante is correct - there is only the Avenger left to discuss, which I'll post either tomorrow or Saturday Are you going with an official GW Order, or making your own? If it's the latter, then there are plenty of members in the Sisters forum or the Liber Astartes forum willing to help you expand on them I'll keep an eye out for what you come up with! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324859-first-sisters-list/#findComment-4471777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Oh, aquilanus, I've made 2 immolators based on the one you did! Thanks! I can get pictures up at some point, but I don't have the FW parts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324859-first-sisters-list/#findComment-4471883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardBarfield9 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 Welcome to the Ecclesiarchy! I was unsure about a Sisters army for a while, but it only took me a year to make up my mind after I first condidered the option, but truly the Emperor provides for his faithful. Well, I can't claim to be an expert, and I'm posting from mobile, but here are my thoughts: There is really no reason to bring Celestians. They have the same options as a BSS, and their AoF (Act of Faith) is much less useful, in my opinion. If you want those bodies, save some points and take more troop choices. You're going to have to work to make your repentia do anything. Remember they are really squishy and they are not in an assault transport. Jacobus is a good option as a Warlord if you join him to Repentia as he increases their invuln and lets them use their 3+ FnP twice. Remember we are only T3. It might just be the models you have, but I feel the BSS with the flamer and the meltagun is a little unfocused. If you can open up points for them and have the models, heavy flamers are also assault weapons. I like the Seraphim! I've not really nailed using them yet: I think I expect them to do too much in assault, and I usually get them killed by shooting, but I love them. Look for advice from others! Only thing to mention is that melta dominions in immolators are great, especially since they can outflank. I suppose you could do it in a rhino, but then you're missing out on that TL-multi melta, and the fun of using thenSisters signature vehicle. The HS section looks solid. Those PEs should be fun. Finally, be sure to check out the Unit of the Week threads! We've done the whole codex, and the Repressor (Avenger strike fighter is next). First off thank you for the reply, definitely helpful. Now to respond to the points you made :) I was mulling over my list and had second thoughts about Celestians. I'll probably drop them. The good thing is, because they use the same models as BSS I can swap them in and out when I want/need to as long as they're not painted :3 I will probably drop them in the end but I'm a sucker for using different units to other people :3 I'm running repentia mostly because I really like the models, but I have considered grabbing a rhino for each squad, maybe immolators if I can get hold of the pieces. I've not played since they allowed you to include ICs in other units, or I was just not aware that I could when I last played during 5th edition. I will definitely try it out. For the third point you made about adding more troop, if I decide to drop the celestian I will use them as BSS and will add another unit of Heavy Flamers and another of regular Flamers. I kind of like the fluff in my mind that makes it appealing to have both a flamer and a heavy flamer in the same squad. Is it worth running any of the other special/heavy weapons available to the BSSs? And am I correct in thinking that dominions use the same BS models? Firstly, welcome to the B+C! I'm hardly an expert either but still, here are a few thoughts: To get around the lack of available Immolators, you could use the Immolator turret sprue that comes with the Exorcist and use the alternate Rhino door (the one with the circle hole) and mount it on that. That's what I'm doing and whilst it's true that it would lose an inch or two in firing range, I'm sure in friendly games, the other player would/could over look that. I'm fully prepared to put up with the loss just to field them though. Here's what I mean: Hidden Content I've been advised that Seraphim are best used with Celestine as an escort. It would certainly be a sight to see on the gaming table Ministorum Priests/Jacobus are, from what has been discussed lately are very useful if deployed well. For more information then their "Unit of the Week" topic will go into more infomation. Links to the "Unit of the Week" set of topics are here: Unit of the Week XVI - Sororitas Rhino. Servant of Dante is correct - there is only the Avenger left to discuss, which I'll post either tomorrow or Saturday Are you going with an official GW Order, or making your own? If it's the latter, then there are plenty of members in the Sisters forum or the Liber Astartes forum willing to help you expand on them I'll keep an eye out for what you come up with! Hi, like I said to Dante thank you for the reply. Also very helpful :) So althought the conversion you've included is a great way to create an immolator, I have a thing where I really don't like to do conversions myself. This is probably due to my lack of artistic ability and that all the times I've tried it's gone horribly wrong and I've ruined models. So as much as I appreciate the conversion idea and recognise how good of an idea it is I personally will stick to the normal immolators. :) I will definitely grab a ministorum preist or two once I have my main army built and painted :) As for the Order I will run. I really like the Order of Our Martyred Lady. However I kind of want to go with my own colour scheme, still using black armour. I know that the Fleurs and Aquilas on the BSS will be white and the rebreather, belt and Inquisition icon will be gold but I'm yet to decide on the colour for the robes. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324859-first-sisters-list/#findComment-4473153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Fair enough regarding the alternate Immolator, but it's literally just a case of changing the Rhino hatch for the one with the hole in and placing the Immolator turret there If you're going the DIY/Homebrew route for your Order, then the Bolter and Chainsword's painter program will be of help: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/sisterp.php Just click on a part of the picture, select the colour you want and it colours it it. To save the picture, click on the "get url" button, then right click to get the "save as" option Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324859-first-sisters-list/#findComment-4473166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracpanzer Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I know you arent looking to optimize for competitive play, but with that number of seraphim (which I love) you may want to build a double CAD to get some Dominions with meltaguns and some Retributors with heavy weapons just to maximize your available units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324859-first-sisters-list/#findComment-4473191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonbandito Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 I know Celestians are pretty lacking, but I still use them from time to time. Reasons to take them over Battle Sister Squads are WS4, 2A base and their Act of Faith is Furious Charge. Basically, they need to be used as a close combat unit, to escort a kitted out Canoness (Mantle of Opheila, Rosarius and Eviscerator) and a couple of Ministorum Priests (Litanies of the Faith is pretty much mandatory, because you're absolutely relying on the War Hymns). An Ecclesiarchy Battle Conclave is almost always going to be a better choice though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324859-first-sisters-list/#findComment-4474787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 I would rather have preferred enemy than furious charge, which is not that impressive and rather situational, but yeah, that stat boost is nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324859-first-sisters-list/#findComment-4475211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonbandito Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 I would rather have preferred enemy than furious charge, which is not that impressive and rather situational, but yeah, that stat boost is nice. Ministorum Priests make the Preferred Enemy Act of Faith redundant for close combat. Zealot lets you re-roll all failed To Hits on that first round of combat, and one of the War Hymns lets you re-roll all failed To Wounds as well. Combine that with 2A base and S4 from Furious Charge and Celestians pull alot more weight in close combat. However a Battle Conclave of Death Cult Assassins and Crusaders will almost always be better. Crusaders to tank on their Storm Shields (re-roll failed 3++ saves in close combat from the War Hymn) and Death Cult assassins murdering stuff with dual power swords. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324859-first-sisters-list/#findComment-4475855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I would rather have preferred enemy than furious charge, which is not that impressive and rather situational, but yeah, that stat boost is nice. Ministorum Priests make the Preferred Enemy Act of Faith redundant for close combat. Zealot lets you re-roll all failed To Hits on that first round of combat, and one of the War Hymns lets you re-roll all failed To Wounds as well. Combine that with 2A base and S4 from Furious Charge and Celestians pull alot more weight in close combat. However a Battle Conclave of Death Cult Assassins and Crusaders will almost always be better. Crusaders to tank on their Storm Shields (re-roll failed 3++ saves in close combat from the War Hymn) and Death Cult assassins murdering stuff with dual power swords. True! Hadn't thought of that . . . I generally go for re-rolling saves, but if you have 2 priests . . . Still not impressed with FC, especially after being unimpressed with having it as an army-wide rule for my BA. But good point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324859-first-sisters-list/#findComment-4475970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonbandito Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I would rather have preferred enemy than furious charge, which is not that impressive and rather situational, but yeah, that stat boost is nice. Ministorum Priests make the Preferred Enemy Act of Faith redundant for close combat. Zealot lets you re-roll all failed To Hits on that first round of combat, and one of the War Hymns lets you re-roll all failed To Wounds as well. Combine that with 2A base and S4 from Furious Charge and Celestians pull alot more weight in close combat. However a Battle Conclave of Death Cult Assassins and Crusaders will almost always be better. Crusaders to tank on their Storm Shields (re-roll failed 3++ saves in close combat from the War Hymn) and Death Cult assassins murdering stuff with dual power swords. True! Hadn't thought of that . . . I generally go for re-rolling saves, but if you have 2 priests . . . Still not impressed with FC, especially after being unimpressed with having it as an army-wide rule for my BA. But good point. My Canoness never leaves home without 2 Priests ;) I'm used to Furious Charge, since both Demons of Khorne and Orks make good use of it. Obviously it relies on you getting the charge, but you should be aiming for that in a close combat unit anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324859-first-sisters-list/#findComment-4476035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Yeah, I guess I just want it to be cooler, like how Retributors get rending. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324859-first-sisters-list/#findComment-4476399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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