Sete Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 Im open to suggestions on the name. I went for Aurea which is golden in latin. Fits with Aurelion :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) Archean Empire? To avoid confusion ;) Time to sleep. Tomorrow ill pick this up again. Edited August 18, 2016 by Sete Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 So what is required of me now? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Archean Empire? To avoid confusion ;) Time to sleep. Tomorrow ill pick this up again. How about Argead empire? The Argeads were Alexander the Great and Phillip II of Macedonia's dynasty and they had an awesome star as their symbol. So perhaps Aurelion Argeos, last descendent of the Argeads? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 This looks very good so far. ~For your information, I am the local crazy chaplain that will always listen to your doubts and questions, oh and I do the eagle warriors legion. But back on topic, would these guys have any specializations? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Meros Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I'm personally with Kelborn, and that these guys should enter in the 40k BotL, since it'd seem that the legions of the Great Crusade right now already have a lot on their plate. I'm not trying to sweep this idea of yours under the carpet of course, I'm just suggesting that instead of appearing where there's already a lot going on, this Empire can fill up the open space for the BotL when it moves to 40k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Looking at timelines and areas of events I see no reason we couldn't introduce them At least subtly into the Insurrection/Scouring. I have a couple ideas of how it could play out; But I'd need to talk to Simi first to make sure all is in order. But my gut instinct is that simply the Great Crusade only reached say a few hundred light years from it; and we could add hints from say a Rogue Trader or Demiurge convoy that traded or interacted with them, but not much concern was given as they didn't at first appearance have Legions of Astartes level warriors, or Primarch/Demigod or Emperor power figureheads; unlike Orks or Eldar. So they get mostly ignored during the civil war, and during the Scouring, we could have the occasional imperial planet lose contact and finally say around M.35-36 an Imperial fleet makes contact and conflict then starts to ensues. That's just a very rough outline obviously. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Yeah they could come later. I actually like your sugestion Sigismund. But for symbol I was going for Winged Lion. St. Mark symbol. How about Argon. (That names reminded me of the Argonauts) Argon Empire. (Sounds agressive) Emperor Aurelion Argo. Specializations... let me see... As I said before, regular humans will carry the day. Since its a small empire, they will not use horde infantry assaults like the Imperial Guard. Highly trained squads with High Tech weapons. Mechanized Infantry. Kinda like Tau but without the Battlesuits. Baroque Style armour. Tempestus models will do just fine, and it will fit with the Power Armour theme for the Emperor Bodyguard. I dont want to go for Macedonia because the Emperor Ship was bucefalo, Alexander Horse, and his 300 custodes were the Companions. Edited August 19, 2016 by Sete Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Hello? Nomad Invasion? Met them. Prisoners gold HEC. HEC vanishes sesrching for them. Finds THem. HEC is captured. Interrogated. Aurelian empire is now informed how corrupt THe Imperiums. Sends seekers to witness THe truth. It is true. Meanwhile zhey prepare for their immenent return. 42kthey return. And with a Zuge army and Vetter tech. Goal:spread imperial truth anderes THe peopleofthe corruption. Oft course imperium isnot happy. Full outwar. Raiden Sees bis Chance launches an black crusade vor he could Meet THe aurelians telling them that they are THe good. (Complicated with THe corruption but maybe thrre is a way) well he takes THe Chance to avenge bis fathers death. Before THe Aurelian See that they Werke wrong raiden has Rainer to mich power. Storming to terra with theaid oft THe surving Chaos primarchs. Â Chaos is spreasding. Aurelian fight now onthe sideof THe imperium, butas theseare theend times, negro s awake and tyranids assimilate THe orks.... Now they can reproduce in great speed.. Â Meanwhile in terra...a Shadowy Figure enters THe imperial Palace, Knocks some custodes out and finally stands in Front of the emperor.it is a masked giant. Gwal has spent bis time inthe black libary and found THe remedy. He looks at his father them he removes his mask and looks THe emperor directly Into his eyes. Big e soul is dragged out filling gwals inner void. Big e was strengthend with billions of souls and it is too much. It burns gwal away and in THe End THe reborn emperor has claimed THe body oft gwal. THe Process was a beacon in the warp and draws all surving primarchs to it. The gods oft chaos know that a god empowered by trillion s oft souls Walkes now the mortal realm and that the he is even More a threat than 10000 Sears before. And thus the endtimes have begun. Â Â Well, that was my Idea for the future. And tau don't exist. They Were blown away in thre great crusade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Proposal:  Let us mention Setes empire during the Insurrection or Scouring via a side box like they firstly mentioned the Blackshields in, I think it was, book 3. Nothing more, nothing less.  Something for the readers to suggest.  Afterwards, we could write small hints or cameos for this empire, but nothing specific.  During the centuries, other threats are arising like the Nomads, the Twilight Crusade, a potential Beast Waaagh and so on.  I would advice us to not through every greater idea at our universe right after the Insurrection.  It would be like:  Insurrection! The battle of Terra! The Scouring! The Nomads! THE TWILIGHT CRUSADE! THE BEAST! THE EMPIRE FROM OUTTA SPACE!!!!!  And then stagnation from M.34-M.41. Thanks a lot. You were always anxious.  Don't let us play our aces right away. Let us stretch our arc with them and using them as highlights of specific eras.  For example: Instead of an Age of Apostasy, we could have the Nomad Invasion  And by now, Setes empire is the best way to initiate the Endtimes as I said earlier.  Name suggestion (just popped up): Leonic Empire => Aurelion Leonic, the bright star, the golden lion, the enlightener   *edit*  Ok, Mikhal ninja'd me but I have to mention one thing:  Tau cannot be blown away during the Great Crusade. In canon, they were discovered during M.36 in a primitive state. Therefore, I would suggest that, during the GC, no Tau could be found. And they are hidden behind the Damocles Gulf. Did our GC went that far? Edited August 19, 2016 by Kelborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I'm leaning towards making this post-Insurrection. We already have to handle, Eldar and Interex involvement on top of a three-way split Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Mikhal, that wouldn't work. The Nomads come from the galactic north, these guys are on the Eastern Fringe. And Kelborn, the Nomads arrive in M.32 so bit too early for what you're imagining. Â I agree though that these guys should be in the background for the Insurrection anf Scouring and then blast on stage at a later date. Edited August 19, 2016 by Sigismund229 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Atm they are on the eastern fringe. It is not yet decided. Even the nomad invasion could occur from the north east.attacking diagonally. This is all in planning stage and we are those with the power to put the pieces togheter. Â But what if they were a whole fleet or more who went missing during the great.crusade and they headed north? Beyond the reach of the astronomicom. Forgotten over time. Just like kel mentions only with a few hints dropped. Â Â And kel: kill the tau off^^ Edited August 19, 2016 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) 40k needs more lions true. :) If I may, I agree that maybe should be better to introduce them on a later stage after scouring. My original idea was for a ship part of an exploration fleet got blasted of course by a warp storm. They came out of the warp in a zone where the astronomican light did not reach hence forcing them to develop FTL non warp travel. Also dead navigators. This can be where ever it needs to be. Eastern front is the best option. Because its far from Terra. So lets say they disappear by M31. By M37 they already have a small interstellar Empire and start to reach out and sending exploration fleets into the galactic core to make contact with Terra. Lets say they kept upholding the Emperor Vision of the Imperial Truth, and now after making contact with the Imperium and see how twisted it became they are horrorized and Emperor Aurelion declares a crusade to free and enlighten mankind. Visually they will share the Gothic, but Baroque look and some STC like rhino and what not but with more advanced firepower. Leonic Empire. I like it. Will use it. Edited August 19, 2016 by Sete Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 We can put it wherever the.story needs it to be^^ but regarding the disappearence. Pit it to the late great crusade as a lot of technology is reclaimed. If you put it after the acourong a lost of technology is lost and we have thos technological stillstand from 30-40k. But if you disappear prior the insurrection you could draw on all that lost technology and have an advantage upon the not so advanced imperium Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 *facepalm* Sigi, that was just an example... Â I even wrote: Â "For example" Â jezz.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 We can put it wherever the.story needs it to be^^ but regarding the disappearence. Pit it to the late great crusade as a lot of technology is reclaimed. If you put it after the acourong a lost of technology is lost and we have thos technological stillstand from 30-40k. But if you disappear prior the insurrection you could draw on all that lost technology and have an advantage upon the not so advanced imperiumYep should work.Ok tonight I will make a first draft of events. But tomorrow im going on holiday and im getting married next week. So 1st week of september I will be back :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Hah!!!. You mean goodbye guys. In one week i am in the clutches of evil. Even though I love my wife, she will imprison me and strip me of everything. ^^ Â But my gratulations Edited August 19, 2016 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Congratulations, Sete!  As of right now, all that's required of you (when you get back) is developing this empire's inner character and style instead of what years they operate. Regardless of when the empire forms, there's going to be a period of isolation from the main events of the galaxy. And, I agree that their true introduction will happen past M35. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Ok will do. And thanks ;) Edited August 19, 2016 by Sete Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4472754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Wohoo, may I congratulate right away? Hope that you'll enjoy this important day. :) Â And don't forget, sometimes its hard, sometimes its good, but whatever the case it's worth it. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4473090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Inner Caracther- They were defined by conflict, from the very beginning they had to fight off feral orks to establish civilization and brought under their wing the scattered tribes of humans present on the planet. Martial Tradition is very much part of everyday life and fight against greenskins continue at the borders of the Empire. That makes for a well drilled and experienced army. Their style follows the ghotic look of old terra, but their isolation has developed a unique Baroque style in the arquitecture. This style can be seen in the army carapace armour, a throwback to the days of old when mankind was united behind a single purpose, but its resilience and technology are nothing less than impressive. Rhino Chassis STC is still the most common build used in the army veichles. Due to the nature of fighting orks, and their prowess at close combat, the empire became adept of avoiding close combat and fight on the move with units supporting one another. Scientific experiment and exploration are encouraged, and every generation saw technology advance by leaps and bounds. From the wreck of an exploration ship to a star sistem in less than a millenium under the leadership of the Immortal Emperor Aurelion, the Leonic Empire if uncheck can become a force to be reckoned with. But the brightest light casts the darkest shadows. Psykers are actively persued and processed in military facilities. Children over 6 years old that present psychic power are terminated, and those young enough start years of training and indoctrination to serve the Emperor directly on the Lion Guard. At the age of 20, surviving candidates are subjected to enhancing cirgury and augmentation. Besides protecting the Emperor, they do hunt and destroy those that would damn civilization, and their neverborn masters... Also there are whispers circulating among those that would see the Emperor deposed... invisible assassins that only leave death in their wake... Edited August 19, 2016 by Sete Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4473132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) So I need to keep this on track it seems! Need to start thinking a bit more about this. This was out of my mind for this last couple of weeks but let's get this party started. Edited September 16, 2016 by Sete Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4504010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Understanable as you entered the prison of marriage^^. Â Congratulations, it takes alot of bravery to fight this last battle. Some guys flee forever, some guys fight it. You are the latter and a braver man than me^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4504029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Welcome back and congratz. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324872-loc-argeus-empire/page/3/#findComment-4504117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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