Deamon Wolf Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 would a watch keep / fortress every only take inductees from a single gene seed line , i.e scions of Rogal Dorn but do others? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325064-chaperist-watch/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I can't think of a good reason off the top of my head as to why they would exclude other Chapters. Perhaps through mere chance a watch-fortress might have inductees solely consisting of Guilliman's gene-line, but that would purely be because most Chapters are of his lineage. I wouldn't count on that being anything but a rarity, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325064-chaperist-watch/#findComment-4476932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I agree that it could happen but wouldn't be planned, except perhaps based on tradition. Say a region used to be monitored by a chapter now lost and other related chapters felt obligated to fulfil the lost chapter's duty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325064-chaperist-watch/#findComment-4476954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deamon Wolf Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 Cheers for that Just thinking of having an all Dorn based Watch keep is all Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325064-chaperist-watch/#findComment-4476961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 You could always model a four 5-strong squads and make a watch demi-company. 20 veteran marines, selected to infiltrate and secure some xenos tech from an Iron Warriors warband. Dorn's successors may be perfect for this type of mission. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325064-chaperist-watch/#findComment-4477048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Having a single geneseed line kill-team seems possible. Having a full Watch Fortress of the same does not. Chance really isn't a huge factor in this because it's not like the Deathwatch are picking what chapters to recruit from at random. They'll be looking to shore up gaps in their knowledge and expertise and possibly even try to court some patronage from a particular chapter. Because of this, I can't see an entire Watch Fortress somehow only having one geneseed line. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325064-chaperist-watch/#findComment-4477198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The4thHorseman Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Having a single geneseed line kill-team seems possible. Having a full Watch Fortress of the same does not. Chance really isn't a huge factor in this because it's not like the Deathwatch are picking what chapters to recruit from at random. They'll be looking to shore up gaps in their knowledge and expertise and possibly even try to court some patronage from a particular chapter. Because of this, I can't see an entire Watch Fortress somehow only having one geneseed line. Thats what I was kind of thinking, like all my Vanguard Vets be Blood Angels and Successors, Bikes be White Scars and Successors that sort of idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325064-chaperist-watch/#findComment-4477388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Having a single geneseed line kill-team seems possible. Having a full Watch Fortress of the same does not. Chance really isn't a huge factor in this because it's not like the Deathwatch are picking what chapters to recruit from at random. They'll be looking to shore up gaps in their knowledge and expertise and possibly even try to court some patronage from a particular chapter. Because of this, I can't see an entire Watch Fortress somehow only having one geneseed line. Thats what I was kind of thinking, like all my Vanguard Vets be Blood Angels and Successors, Bikes be White Scars and Successors that sort of idea. I wouldn't go quite that narrow with my specializations but I definitely feel that way in general. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325064-chaperist-watch/#findComment-4477397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Technically, the majority of Watch Fortresses would have Ultramarine successors already. It could happen, even statistically. Thousands of years of Deathwatch kill teams. Generally a Watch Company is 40+ space marines. I think you can have a few KT's at a time. If an Inquisitor or Watch Commander wanted to request a trooper from here and a trooper from there... it could happen. It's not like a random dice roll with Deathwatch. They provide experts that are needed. The skill set and even the geneseed could be known in advance. I agree it wouldn't be likely to have a watch fortress JUST using one source of geneseed, but it could happen in certain instances. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325064-chaperist-watch/#findComment-4477418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 the variety of chapters and specialisations is the the main advantage of the Deathwatch, not sure why they would willingly dilute that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325064-chaperist-watch/#findComment-4477634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I mean, I see the appeal (having a roughly coherent force and honoring a favorite chapter), but if that's your bag why not play C:SM? The Sternhammer Strike Force and Imperial Fists Chapter Tactics are both reasonably strong and offer just this solution. You could always include a Kill Team or two if you want to play C:DW as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325064-chaperist-watch/#findComment-4478057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Having a single geneseed line kill-team seems possible. Having a full Watch Fortress of the same does not. Chance really isn't a huge factor in this because it's not like the Deathwatch are picking what chapters to recruit from at random. They'll be looking to shore up gaps in their knowledge and expertise and possibly even try to court some patronage from a particular chapter. Because of this, I can't see an entire Watch Fortress somehow only having one geneseed line. Thats what I was kind of thinking, like all my Vanguard Vets be Blood Angels and Successors, Bikes be White Scars and Successors that sort of idea. Personally, I think a more interesting approach would be to make the specialists from Chapters that are not normally thought of as the optimal choice for the role. Make the biker an Ultramarine. Make the Vanguards Salamanders, Iron Hands or Imperial Fists. Make the watch commander a Marine Malevolent. It makes people question and imagine why that marine is in that role, rather than revert to stereotype. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325064-chaperist-watch/#findComment-4478276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Having a single geneseed line kill-team seems possible. Having a full Watch Fortress of the same does not. Chance really isn't a huge factor in this because it's not like the Deathwatch are picking what chapters to recruit from at random. They'll be looking to shore up gaps in their knowledge and expertise and possibly even try to court some patronage from a particular chapter. Because of this, I can't see an entire Watch Fortress somehow only having one geneseed line. Thats what I was kind of thinking, like all my Vanguard Vets be Blood Angels and Successors, Bikes be White Scars and Successors that sort of idea. Personally, I think a more interesting approach would be to make the specialists from Chapters that are not normally thought of as the optimal choice for the role. Make the biker an Ultramarine. Make the Vanguards Salamanders, Iron Hands or Imperial Fists. Make the watch commander a Marine Malevolent. It makes people question and imagine why that marine is in that role, rather than revert to stereotype. This is my preferred approach as well and it was something I encouraged heavily when GMing the Deathwatch RPG. We've all seen the stereotypes a thousand times and we all know how well they operate. But how does it affect a marine whose upbringing wasn't (in many cases, literally) bred for the role? That is a more interesting question for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325064-chaperist-watch/#findComment-4478427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 This is my preferred approach as well and it was something I encouraged heavily when GMing the Deathwatch RPG. We've all seen the stereotypes a thousand times and we all know how well they operate. But how does it affect a marine whose upbringing wasn't (in many cases, literally) bred for the role? That is a more interesting question for me. Yeah, it would be a very good reason why he is in DW. If his Chapter doesn't exactly need his talents, rather than waste them they can dump him in closest Watch fortress and score major points for keeping oaths and good recruit material. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325064-chaperist-watch/#findComment-4478575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Like a not so dynamic duo of a black templar and raven guard devestators. One banished for pointing guns at the foe from afar instead of beating them with it up close. The other for being entirely unsneaky and unsubtle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325064-chaperist-watch/#findComment-4478646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Banished? You make it sound like "The Dirty Deathwatch". I like it... Watch Master: "Where is your Watch Captain, marines?" Deathwatchers: "Blown up, sir!" Watch Master: "Where have you been?" Deathwatchers: "Training, sir." Watch Master: "What kind of training?" Deathwatchers: "Astaaaartes training, sir." Watch Master: "So, am I to understand you completed your training on your own?" Deathwatchers: "That's the fact, Jack!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325064-chaperist-watch/#findComment-4478692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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