IronDrake28 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I've played against a number of competent tactical squad players, and while small blasts can hurt them, good players spacing them 2" apart mitigates quite a lot of that damage. Sure you can't always do that, but I'm finding small blasts little less useful against experienced players. A player who takes the time to place all their models 2" apart from each other isn't a 'good' one necessarily :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325067-the-humble-tactical-marine-and-his-place-in-the-meta/page/2/#findComment-4486021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Just good at avoiding blast templates :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325067-the-humble-tactical-marine-and-his-place-in-the-meta/page/2/#findComment-4486127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I've played against a number of competent tactical squad players, and while small blasts can hurt them, good players spacing them 2" apart mitigates quite a lot of that damage. Sure you can't always do that, but I'm finding small blasts little less useful against experienced players. Not like all those MWG batreps... Right ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325067-the-humble-tactical-marine-and-his-place-in-the-meta/page/2/#findComment-4486189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Honestly, if you can spread all of your minis out 2" meticulously from each other then you probably don't have enough terrain on the board :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325067-the-humble-tactical-marine-and-his-place-in-the-meta/page/2/#findComment-4486407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 They are a great option! They bubblewrap my warhound titan against melta. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325067-the-humble-tactical-marine-and-his-place-in-the-meta/page/2/#findComment-4487215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 If utilizing them as drop pod squads with close combat weapons, do you really need Tactical Marines or would Despoilers do just as well? You're effectively paying 20 points for bolt guns, and you can still fury of the legion with bolt pistols if it comes up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325067-the-humble-tactical-marine-and-his-place-in-the-meta/page/2/#findComment-4490177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nefarious squirrel Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Ive been house ruling with a mate that for every 5 marines you may take a flamer at 10pts or a meltagun at 15pts. It makes them more "tactical" and works really well with a support squads with volkite or plasma guns. There not able to nope AP2 stuff instantly, but allows them to used better on the ground as there more viable a threat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325067-the-humble-tactical-marine-and-his-place-in-the-meta/page/2/#findComment-4490449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Ive been house ruling with a mate that for every 5 marines you may take a flamer at 10pts or a meltagun at 15pts. It makes them more "tactical" and works really well with a support squads with volkite or plasma guns. There not able to nope AP2 stuff instantly, but allows them to used better on the ground as there more viable a threat. I mean, play the game how you want but that just feels totally against the spirit of the Heresy....? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325067-the-humble-tactical-marine-and-his-place-in-the-meta/page/2/#findComment-4490478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nefarious squirrel Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I see your point Charlo. And it was something with agonised over. But both of us a fans of just the humble marine and building everything around him, its getting him into combat not using him a tax for other things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325067-the-humble-tactical-marine-and-his-place-in-the-meta/page/2/#findComment-4490486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 it also steps on the toes of veterans, which are basically the 40k tactical squads in terms of wargear (slightly better in fact). tactical marines with ccws are good as a counter charge unit, when you already have one unit in, throwing them in too makes a difference. otherwise, their goal is really to get to an objective in their metal bunker then hold on as long as possible, potentially using fury if the right moment comes up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325067-the-humble-tactical-marine-and-his-place-in-the-meta/page/2/#findComment-4490522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nefarious squirrel Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Veterans are better as they take a much wider range of weapons to deal with different threats. But like breachers which have access to special weapons allowing a couple in a tactical squad does not step to much on other squads roles. Mobile metal bunkers (rhinos etc) are good but ive found running a 10 man squad next to a achilles as its cover very good. Its also massivly dependent on who you play with i suppose. My mate and me having been opponents since we were 9 (where now 36), and weve developed lots of house rules for epic and other games. Plus a real life background in the military has driven us to try playing with different rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325067-the-humble-tactical-marine-and-his-place-in-the-meta/page/2/#findComment-4490550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 I think special league rules are totally fine and a welcome thing. You're not a slave to the game system! That said, adding special weapons makes them compete with some other choices. I'd probably find another way to buff them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325067-the-humble-tactical-marine-and-his-place-in-the-meta/page/2/#findComment-4493029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Yes I agree but not helpful in a Tactical discussion really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325067-the-humble-tactical-marine-and-his-place-in-the-meta/page/2/#findComment-4493285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I think if they had BP, B and CCW as stock they would be more usefull, as it is they are just a tax that is pretty much the Magikarp of the Legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325067-the-humble-tactical-marine-and-his-place-in-the-meta/page/2/#findComment-4496228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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