Bat33.1 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 With Javlin Speeders getting a points drop how do they work out now for the FA slot when compared to Jet bikes? Are legion speeders worth taking too - I believe these are just the stock SM plastic kit? I'm considering adding some Javelins and in cash terms I can buy 2 Javelins for the same cost as 4 jetbikes but am unsure as which will see more table time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325239-jetbikes-v-speeders/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I liked javelins before they got a buff, and now they are way better. With 2x hunter killer missiles and a multi melta you've got one turn of pumping out 5 s8 shots at bs5, plus with the pts reduction it's a great price. That extra av also makes it better than the normal land speeder, since you can't get furied of the legion to death by bolters. Jetbikes aren't bad, but for their price I think javelins are better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325239-jetbikes-v-speeders/#findComment-4482421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Javelins are super solid. So are the new Skyhunters despite their competitive slot (although more lucrative for alpha legion). A javelin is like two Skyhunters for about 20 points less. The regular jetbikes only entice me if you're playing a Legion that can maximize their impact. Dark Angels are the most obvious example with their special bolter rounds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325239-jetbikes-v-speeders/#findComment-4482484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norngahl Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Jetbikes are sexy.. but that's it. They hardly add anything that can't be done better and/or cheaper by other choices. Javelin are totally awesome for a few points. But then.. quad mortars are pretty much the same. Trade side shots for sunder. And Javelins are way more fragile. But.. you are not that guy that brings more than the obvious three quads. Mobility of the speeders is less of a thing in 30k as the scoring stuff is rather slow and shooting is goddamn deadly. Still, Javelins are a great way to get high S weapons into a list, especially when the points go up and slots are rare. Plus.. they are cheap but good AV if you go for target overload. If jetbikes were 2 wounds, you might see them more often. Look at Justaerin. 2 wounds and a bit of price reduction and they are totally strong choice. No autoinclude, but good in a lot of lists. Would be great, if any unit was like this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325239-jetbikes-v-speeders/#findComment-4482533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat33.1 Posted August 28, 2016 Author Share Posted August 28, 2016 So of the three options it seems Javelins are the stronger option and a 'not that guy' option too? Win, win then :) When l'm looking at putting a list together and checking options other people are fitting in the quad mortar seems a universal choice for a full on comp list because it deals so much death to marines with out a metal bawks to hide in. I know all legions will have access to pretty much all the kit that they need but the fluff hound in me just rubs up the wrong way with quad mortars for some legions, they just feel wrong. It sounds like a unit that could do with a points increase or a restriction in numbers as I've seen plenty of lists running 2x3 of them. Shame Jetbikes are less than survivable as they would fit my ideas with some legion lists and like norngahl says 2 wounds would be fairer and see them getmore table time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325239-jetbikes-v-speeders/#findComment-4482574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Jetbikes are rule of cool unless your Legion gets something out of them. A weird middle ground between bike and attack bike. 2+ is great but they have really weird abilities in a heavy bolter and only 1A with no close combat options. Like Terminus said, DA rock them and Scars will. WE probably can too knowing them. Javelins however border on overpowered with thier current rules and cost, very good at what they do! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325239-jetbikes-v-speeders/#findComment-4482596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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