Cloud Runner Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Hi guys, I'm wondering what people's opinions are on legion assault squads equipped with combat shields. Gaming wise I realise that they're not magnificent (only a minor inv. save) and are an additional expense, but I was also wondering what peopel thought of them aesthetically. I'm running a Dark Angel Legion list, and the squad has knightly helms and robes (full on Caliban style) and was thinking of using Brettonian shields for a bit more of the knightly theme. Could then add some heraldry or something interesting. i like the idea, but not sure how well it will look in execution. Does anyone have an example of similar and do you think it'd look good, or just a bit rubbish? Thanks guys and look forward to hearing opinions :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Related to this, it would be interesting to see what people do use for assault squad combat shields in 30k? do you just use the 40k combat shields from the new assault squad? or fantasy battle shields? what would people use for BA? Brettonian ones sound like an excellent choice for DA, although I think you'd still want to go with ones with as simple a design as possible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4485490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDrake28 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 The smaller round shields you get with the Prosecutors and the Stormcast upgrade packs could work. You can file off the iconography fairly easily. Scibor does some similar round shields too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4485533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Pheidias Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I say go for it. I have my own plans for White Scars with combat shields... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4485596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 It will look really cool if modeled right. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4485750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 5++ in melee is as good as tartaros terminator armour, so its not as bad as you might think Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4485873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 It can get to be a lot of points, but seeing how vulnerable assault marines are as power armored models with no transport, it's probably worth it. For example if your squad takes 10 wounds, on average you'll save ~2. You paid 27 points to give the grunts shields, or you can buy two more guys for 26. Seems like a fair exchange and it will be more than worth it if you get stuck in melee against some power weapons. It will add up quick though across multiple units. Aesthetically I think it will look amazing if you can find the right buckler. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4485925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrolf the Cunning Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I think it's a cool idea thematically and visually. I'm wondering if the Bret Knight shields will look a little slim width wise on a power armoured figure. I'm thinking the faction formerly known as Empire may have some better fits. I was personally thinking of making a squad of either ultramarine or white scars with dwarf shields as combat shields sans motif. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4485982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Runner Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 Looks like I'll have to give these a try I'll try and mock up some testers for you all. I'm gonna use the blank shields from the last generation of knights, which have a convenient clamp on the back! think they should work nicely, and compliment the planned breachers using the men at arms shields. Thanks for the feedback everyone, really appreciate it and it's great to be part of a brilliant community Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4486053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 You should use these: http://images1.sw-cdn.net/product/picture/625x465_15443868_9111087_1471666899.jpg so I can see what they look like on a model. I am not sold on the gun thing (I like the Suzerain approach more), but that is one solution for the pistol/shield hand. link Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4486129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I am liking the new DW shields . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4486130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I am liking the new DW shields . They got new shields? I know the Deathwatch squad box has that big black tower shield thing, which doesn't really work as a combat shield. The Vanguard I think are just the same old storm shields as always, unless they Deathwatchified them somehow? I'm waiting for mid-September when all the colleges have started up again, and all the guys who use their school laser printer to make stuff are back at it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4486132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 It's a storm shield and it looks hot. Check my Templar thread if you are interested. http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah192/steve_turner9/image_zpskxpsww9z.jpeg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4486185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Runner Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 You should use these: http://images1.sw-cdn.net/product/picture/625x465_15443868_9111087_1471666899.jpg so I can see what they look like on a model. I am not sold on the gun thing (I like the Suzerain approach more), but that is one solution for the pistol/shield hand. link Honestly not a fan of those, they're just...... I dunno, something about them not quite right in my mind. Thanks for the suggestion though Plus, I already have the squad built (in need of reassembly after stripping) and I have the Bret shields sat in a bitz box! EDIT: here's a pic (not mine) of the shields I'll be using link @Blackorange - he looks very tasty. Looking forward to sprinkling some DW bitz through my 30k army for various projects Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4486382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 @BlackOrange -That's a sweet deathwatch model, but that shield is not really usable in this context. Not only is it too big to be a combat shield but the iconography doesn't really work either. @Cloud -I am not very fond of them either, the external gun strikes me as a dumb design, but I was hoping someone would be the guinea pigpioneering modeler. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4486388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I'm with Blindhamster. If I was doing some combat shields, I'd probably find some fantasy shields to use as bucklers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4486418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Runner Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 Terminus, here's a link to some I've just seen on Facebook. Not sure, but look better than initially thought https://m.facebook.com/groups/519645781404615?view=permalink&id=1107053939330460 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4486523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 They're pretty good in game terms, especially in CC. Personally I'm putting them on my BA Assault marines, as you can really make them survivable with a 5++ and FNP etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4486647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadmus Tyro Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 How about these..... http://sciborminiatures.com/pow.php?absol=1&co=i/2014/big/lion_shields_01.jpg Might be too large though .... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4486680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Terminus, here's a link to some I've just seen on Facebook. Not sure, but look better than initially thought https://m.facebook.com/groups/519645781404615?view=permalink&id=1107053939330460 I can't click on it, but I do have a guy who designed a pretty cool buckler of a Hydra with an Alpha emblazoned on it. I'll probably go that way, or borrow some bits from the Dark Elves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325348-assault-squads-with-combat-shields/#findComment-4486966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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