Ultramarine 2500

[Aarant]

Would love some feed back on my list

 

+++ Ultramarines (2500pts) +++

 

++ Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List (Age of Darkness) (2500pts) ++

 

+ HQ (435pts) +

 

Captain Remus Ventanus (155pts)

··Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]

 

Damocles Command Rhino (100pts)

 

Legion Centurion (180pts) [Artificer Armour, Jump Pack, Power Weapon]

··(Optional) Relics of the Dark Age of Technology [Void Shield Harness]

··Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]

··May be upgraded to one of these Consul roles: [Primus Medicae]

 

+ Troops (385pts) +

 

Invictarus Suzerain Squad (225pts) [6x Invictarus Suzerains]

··Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]

 

Legion Tactical Squad (160pts) [Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines]

··Legion Tactical Sergeant [Power Armour]

··Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]

 

+ Elites (65pts) +

 

Apothecarion Detachment (65pts)

··Legion Apothecary [Artificer Armour, Power Sword]

····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]

 

+ Fast Attack (230pts) +

 

Locutarus Storm Squad (230pts) [Hand Flamer, 5x Locutarus]

··Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]

··Locutarus Strike Leader [Hand Flamer, Power Fist]

 

+ Heavy Support (985pts) +

 

Legion Heavy Support Squad (185pts) [4x Legion Space Marines, Volkite Culverin]

··Legion Sergeant [Power Armour]

··Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]

 

Legion Spartan Assault Tank (370pts) [Armoured Ceramite, Flare Shield]

 

Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon (430pts)

··Leviathan Siege Dreadnought [Armoured Ceramite, 2x Cyclonic Melta Lance, Legion Dreadnought Drop Pod]

 

+ Legion +

 

Legion Astartes [Loyalist, XIII: Ultramarines]

 

+ Lord of War (400pts) +

 

Roboute Guilliman (400pts) [Primarch]

··Master of the Legion [Pride of the Legion]

[Ishagu]

With Guilliman on the board you really don't need Remus Ventanus - his army buffs aren't worth the cost.

 

You have a Spartan - I'm assuming it's to transport the Suzerains? Why not take a normal Landraider and save a lot of points. Imo one of the best things about the Ultras is that they don't need to invest in a Spartan to transport their Primarch and bodyguard. A Raider can transport Suzerains, Guilliman, an Apothecary AND a Centurion. Another advantage of this is the Landraider is a dedicated transport for the Suzerains which frees up a Heavy Support.

 

You can't take relics without your opponent's permission as per a FW FAQ so it's not advised to build a Centurion or Tactic around it.

 

The Locutarus are decent, though I prefer starting them on the board in a unit of 10 and not really worth spending the points on hand flamers or Plasma Pistols.

 

What's the main reason for you to bring the Damocles? To help bring the Locutarus in on turn 2? I'm not sure it's worth the investment outside of a force built around reserves.

 

You should be making use of Guilliman's buffing rules so an example of that would be 2 Sicaran Tanks with Tank Hunter for efficient vehicle removal or 2 Deredeo Dreadnought with Implacable Advance for holding objectives whist grinding down transports/flyers. This is imperative and one of the main reasons to take the Primarch alongside his leadership buff and seize protection.

 

So potentially look to drop the Heavy Support with Volkites, the Damocles and Ventanus, exchange the Spartan for a Raider, possibly exchange the Centurion in his current set up for a Chaplain or Forge Lord, look to bring in 2x Sicarans, Deredeos or even something like Vindicator Lasor Destroyers. Ideally you want to be able to destroy transports and tanks so that enemy troops are exposed for you to charge with the Locutarus or Primarch.

 

Also invest in an additional Tactical Squad for more objective secured.

[Aarant]

Thanks for the feed back, the league I'm playing in does allow relics. A lot to consider.