Taliesin Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/the-red-path-ebook.html So this is out now in hardcover and ebook. Has anyone read this series and what did you think of it? Sounds quite interesting what with Khârn vs Abaddon and the involvement of living saints. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
veterannoob Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I've started it as I'm interviewing the author on Friday. Like it so far . If anyone has any questions for author Chris Dows happy to take them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4505802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
veterannoob Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I've started it as I'm interviewing the author on Friday. Like it so far . If anyone has any questions for author Chris Dows happy to take them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4505832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 and the involvement of living saints. Could you elaborate on this part (in spoilers if it will ruin it for everyone)? The Living Saint I know of is Celestine... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4505834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/the-red-path-ebook.html So this is out now in hardcover and ebook. Has anyone read this series and what did you think of it? Sounds quite interesting what with Khârn vs Abaddon and the involvement of living saints. I should hopeful start reading the Red Path tomorrow. I'm really looking forward to this as Khârn one of my favourite character for Chaos since I started the hobby 20 year ago. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4505895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 How is the prose? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4506396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I've read it all. I would've liked more character development and less bolter porn. But if you like reading pages about how Khârn kills everybody, I suppose you'll like it. I didn't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4506406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 That's sadly once again a symptom of the serialized format. Every installment needs big action or GW/BL management won't be happy. In a novel or novella you can space the action out better, and not have a clash every 30 to 50 pages that lasts for 10-20 pages. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4507110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I've read it all. I would've liked more character development and less bolter porn. But if you like reading pages about how Khârn kills everybody, I suppose you'll like it. I didn't. Sounds disappointing...guess I will pass Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4507133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allart01 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I've read it all. I would've liked more character development and less bolter porn. But if you like reading pages about how Khârn kills everybody, I suppose you'll like it. I didn't. Agreed. To add my points: I can't stand World Eaters (or Khorne Berserkers, even worse) that go "we are mad random butchers when it's cool to be one, but when the fluff needs it, we're always perfectly reasonable". Abaddon's part could have been avoided - they are making a trilogy to show him as the ultimate, ultra cool antagonist, and here we see him again as a cartoonish villain shaking his fists and doing silly dramatic poses. I actually liked the parts with the Saint and the Angels Revenant more than those with the World Eaters/Khorne berserkers and Chaos in general, which felt like a step backwards after Chosen of Khorne, Eater of Worlds and Talon of Horus. I'm always sorry when I have to admit I really didn't like somebody's work, so let's blame the different format. I think DarkChaplain has a fair point. I'll still buy the paperback when it comes out, because I'm a World Eaters and Khârn fanboy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4507348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I've read it all. I would've liked more character development and less bolter porn. But if you like reading pages about how Khârn kills everybody, I suppose you'll like it. I didn't. Agreed. To add my points: I can't stand World Eaters (or Khorne Berserkers, even worse) that go "we are mad random butchers when it's cool to be one, but when the fluff needs it, we're always perfectly reasonable". Abaddon's part could have been avoided - they are making a trilogy to show him as the ultimate, ultra cool antagonist, and here we see him again as a cartoonish villain shaking his fists and doing silly dramatic poses. I actually liked the parts with the Saint and the Angels Revenant more than those with the World Eaters/Khorne berserkers and Chaos in general, which felt like a step backwards after Chosen of Khorne, Eater of Worlds and Talon of Horus. I'm always sorry when I have to admit I really didn't like somebody's work, so let's blame the different format. I think DarkChaplain has a fair point. I'll still buy the paperback when it comes out, because I'm a World Eaters and Khârn fanboy. The problem is also that's it a prelude for a Traitor's Hate campaign and that's another reason it's suffer. Traitor's hate campaign fluff by the way is an abomination - chop, burn dakka-dakka dark rituals for the sake of dark rituals. Counterattack that changed the game depicted in 3 sentences after a chronological date etc.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4507494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Laertes Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 The problem is also that's it a prelude for a Traitor's Hate campaign and that's another reason it's suffer. Traitor's hate campaign fluff by the way is an abomination - chop, burn dakka-dakka dark rituals for the sake of dark rituals. Counterattack that changed the game depicted in 3 sentences after a chronological date etc.... That's probably because the fluff has been split in two books, with the counterattacks being told in Angel's Blade. I quite like the prose of Traitor's Hate, by the way, even if it is too short for my likings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4507616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allart01 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Today I noticed a thing. The Red Path subscription was 16.49 euros, limited time offer, pay six get eight. The series is over, and the week after that the eBook gets released at 13.49. Nice job, you just persuaded me to not buy one of those "convenient" subscriptions anymore, EVER Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4508585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Today I noticed a thing. The Red Path subscription was 16.49 euros, limited time offer, pay six get eight. The series is over, and the week after that the eBook gets released at 13.49. Nice job, you just persuaded me to not buy one of those "convenient" subscriptions anymore, EVER Сounted, agreed and seconded Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4508608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Today I noticed a thing.The Red Path subscription was 16.49 euros, limited time offer, pay six get eight. The series is over, and the week after that the eBook gets released at 13.49. Nice job, you just persuaded me to not buy one of those "convenient" subscriptions anymore, EVER That's why I've been telling people in various places to hold off and wait if they aren't dying to dig in asap, like with the Legacy of Russ novelization. The sub-prices, even with the "8 for 6" marketing, are higher than the novel itself will go for. A plus, though, is that at least you seem to be getting the novel, once it releases, as part of the subscription as well. So its not like you have to buy the full thing again. Though from what I gather, they're notoriously late on updating the subscriptions sometimes... ----------- Anyway, I just read the first part, Furnaces of Haeleon, last night. Not hugely impressed. Abaddon felt like a bully rather than an impressive leader of superhumans, and while I liked Khârn, the prose could've been better. Seemed kind of repetitive in places. There were some cool action scenes, like Khârn using a burning White Scars bike to jump off and over battling Scars and Berzerkers, to get into close combat with a Stormseer, but overall I felt the battle fatigue coming up again. Most of the story/chapter was action, which is to be expected with Khorne Berzerkers I'd say, with some inklings of interesting characters, but I can only hope that the next few installments have more meat and less all-out combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4508626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
veterannoob Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I've learned unless I NEED the serialized pieces, like, tap that vein need them, I'll wait for the complete book coming right after the series conclusion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4510487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Today I noticed a thing.The Red Path subscription was 16.49 euros, limited time offer, pay six get eight. The series is over, and the week after that the eBook gets released at 13.49. Nice job, you just persuaded me to not buy one of those "convenient" subscriptions anymore, EVER That's why I've been telling people in various places to hold off and wait if they aren't dying to dig in asap, like with the Legacy of Russ novelization. The sub-prices, even with the "8 for 6" marketing, are higher than the novel itself will go for. A plus, though, is that at least you seem to be getting the novel, once it releases, as part of the subscription as well. So its not like you have to buy the full thing again. Though from what I gather, they're notoriously late on updating the subscriptions sometimes... ----------- Anyway, I just read the first part, Furnaces of Haeleon, last night. Not hugely impressed. Abaddon felt like a bully rather than an impressive leader of superhumans, and while I liked Khârn, the prose could've been better. Seemed kind of repetitive in places. There were some cool action scenes, like Khârn using a burning White Scars bike to jump off and over battling Scars and Berzerkers, to get into close combat with a Stormseer, but overall I felt the battle fatigue coming up again. Most of the story/chapter was action, which is to be expected with Khorne Berzerkers I'd say, with some inklings of interesting characters, but I can only hope that the next few installments have more meat and less all-out combat. You would be even less impresed further on, lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4512240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 We'll see. I started on the second and seeing the Ecclesiarch and Cannoness makes me hopeful. It is the unrelenting action I dread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325970-the-red-path-by-chris-dows/#findComment-4512371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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