BL fluff teasing us about future models?

[K3nn3rs]

***Potential Spoiler warning***

 

I'm a third of the way through Praetorian of Dorn (an amazing book) and I've come across numerous mentions of Dorn's Huscarls. As a IF player this has got me very excited!

 

But it's left me wondering; what other units/ vehicles have been mentioned in BL fluff that has as of yet not been released by FW?

[IronDrake28]

***Potential Spoiler warning***

 

I'm a third of the way through Praetorian of Dorn (an amazing book) and I've come across numerous mentions of Dorn's Huscarls. As a IF player this has got me very excited!

 

But it's left me wondering; what other units/ vehicles have been mentioned in BL fluff that has as of yet not been released by FW?

The Night Lord's Atramentar spring to mind.

[badguyshaveallthefun]

Raven Guard Deliverers come to mind as well. I need them.

[Kol Saresk]

I'd have to go back and look, but ultimately the answer is none and all. Some units that Forgeworld have produced, have been a direct result because they were mentioned in novels. Such as the IV Legion's Iron Circle robots. Future units are also likely to be inspired by the novels. And on the flip side, some units are only mentioned in the novels because they are currently being worked on by Forgeworld, or have already been released as models(or at least rules).

 

So it will always be a give and take, but it will always be there.

[Soldier of Dorn]

I'm torn: at once I'd like models for the Huscarls, but at the same time, it's pretty clearly expressed in the book that they wear Indomitus armor. I'm not a huge fan of Indomitus. :(

[betrayer41]

I rememeber for the longest time having read about mastodons in BL and FINALLY we have them

[AfroCampbell]

I'm torn: at once I'd like models for the Huscarls, but at the same time, it's pretty clearly expressed in the book that they wear Indomitus armor. I'm not a huge fan of Indomitus.

This is so true .... far out why not Tartaros..... or Cataphractii ....or a new pattern

[Jarl Kjaran Coldheart]

I'm torn: at once I'd like models for the Huscarls, but at the same time, it's pretty clearly expressed in the book that they wear Indomitus armor. I'm not a huge fan of Indomitus.

This is so true .... far out why not Tartaros..... or Cataphractii ....or a new pattern

I was under the impression it was the most advanced at the time of the Heresy, not as cumbersome as the Cataphractii armor but more sturdy than the Tartaros (back when the Tartaros had a 6++)

But just try and imagine being the quartermaster to tell the Huscarl of the Imperial Fist he cannot have whatever armor he wants.

Build them however you'd like, and damn anybody who tells you what to do with your models.

WLK

[Kizzdougs]

I'm pretty sure the Huscarls can wear whatever armour they like. Throughout most of the book I got the impression that they were wearing power/artificer armour, it was only the scene at the end where it actually mentioned them wearing Indomitus. I'd assume they wear artificer armour most of the time, but for a teleportation attack into a zone mortalis situation you'd be mad not to choose terminator armour (not sure why they went for Indomitus though).

 

It's similar to the depiction of the Phoenix Guard in Fulgrim. In the novel they wear power/artificer armour, but the FW minis/rules only cover a Terminator armoured option.

 

Some Morlocks for the Iron Hands would be great.

The Emperor's Children 'Sun-killers.'

Raven Guard 'Raptors.'

Fabius' 'Terata.'

World Eaters Triarii.

Sons of Horus Luperci!!!

 

 

I'd also love some new additions to the list of available characters, such as Seneschal Rann, Delvarus, Lucius, and Tauro Nicodemus.

[TheCelticRaven]

I'm pretty sure the Huscarls can wear whatever armour they like. Throughout most of the book I got the impression that they were wearing power/artificer armour, it was only the scene at the end where it actually mentioned them wearing Indomitus. I'd assume they wear artificer armour most of the time, but for a teleportation attack into a zone mortalis situation you'd be mad not to choose terminator armour (not sure why they went for Indomitus though).

 

It's similar to the depiction of the Phoenix Guard in Fulgrim. In the novel they wear power/artificer armour, but the FW minis/rules only cover a Terminator armoured option.

 

Some Morlocks for the Iron Hands would be great.

The Emperor's Children 'Sun-killers.'

Raven Guard 'Raptors.'

Fabius' 'Terata.'

World Eaters Triarii.

Sons of Horus Luperci!!!

 

 

I'd also love some new additions to the list of available characters, such as Seneschal Rann, Delvarus, Lucius, and Tauro Nicodemus.

I was under the impression that the Morlocks were simply a unit of elite Gorgon terminators used as a bodyguard...

[Kizzdougs]

 

I'm pretty sure the Huscarls can wear whatever armour they like. Throughout most of the book I got the impression that they were wearing power/artificer armour, it was only the scene at the end where it actually mentioned them wearing Indomitus. I'd assume they wear artificer armour most of the time, but for a teleportation attack into a zone mortalis situation you'd be mad not to choose terminator armour (not sure why they went for Indomitus though).

 

It's similar to the depiction of the Phoenix Guard in Fulgrim. In the novel they wear power/artificer armour, but the FW minis/rules only cover a Terminator armoured option.

 

Some Morlocks for the Iron Hands would be great.

The Emperor's Children 'Sun-killers.'

Raven Guard 'Raptors.'

Fabius' 'Terata.'

World Eaters Triarii.

Sons of Horus Luperci!!!

 

 

I'd also love some new additions to the list of available characters, such as Seneschal Rann, Delvarus, Lucius, and Tauro Nicodemus.

I was under the impression that the Morlocks were simply a unit of elite Gorgon terminators used as a bodyguard...

 

As far as I know the Morlocks and the Gorgons are completely seperate, but I'm only going on what is written in the fluff blurb of their unit entry. I could easily have missed something linking the two together in another source :)

[Astropate]

Fallen Angels introduced a flyer named Condor. Maybe they'll make a "Dark Angels only" variant of an existing flyer as they did with Raven Guard.

 

Deathfire reintroduced the first Terminator armour released in the 80s.

[RandomMarine]

In regards to morlock and gorgons. All gorgons are morlocks but not all morlocks are gorgons.

[01RTB01]

Give me Vairosean and Julius and I'll be happy :)

[Corswain]

Fallen Angels introduced a flyer named Condor. Maybe they'll make a "Dark Angels only" variant of an existing flyer as they did with Raven Guard.

Deathfire reintroduced the first Terminator armour released in the 80s.

I think that, collectively, GW and consumers alike are just going to pretend that Fallen Angels didn't happen. ;)

 

More on topic - yeah, they do probably do some teasing. They definitely did with Ravenwing which was followed by the DA release with Darkshrouds etc.

Horus Heresy shouldn't be any different. It might just take FW a lot longer to get round to things.

[Kol Saresk]

But Fallen Angels was the better out of the two novels. It had giant city-sized tanks and Nemiel wasn't a whiny baby who was trying to assassinate the Emperor!

 

But on a more serious note, I think what we'll see out of all vehicle models are one prime unit that will have rules. Such as the Primaris Lightning Fighter. The only time we'll see a new "fighter" is if it has a very significant difference in capabilities that call for a new unit entry.

 

But, if the modular treatment of the Knights and Titans are anything to go by, we might start seeing adaption kits so we can change that Lightning into say, the Vulture fighter that Sevatar space surfed on in Prince of Crows. Ruleswise, it'll be the same unit, but we'll be able to make it look however we want.

[Hfran Morkai]

I want Solar Auxilia/Guard Leviathan Command Vehicles...

 

Though I can't remember if that was a Heresy era unit. Would love Valkryies or an equivalent make an appearance.

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

I'm torn: at once I'd like models for the Huscarls, but at the same time, it's pretty clearly expressed in the book that they wear Indomitus armor. I'm not a huge fan of Indomitus.

Aesthetically, they could deviate pretty significantly from what we consider Indomitus to be - whilst all Legion-specific units have embellishments to tie them to their Legion, some deviate from the standard patterns to such an extent it can kinda be tricky to tell what pattern they wear - see the Ashen Circle. So I wouldn't loose hope - plus I'd love to see a set of Legion Indomitus Terminator Armour from FW, with the styling of other 30k-era armour (molecular bonding studs, lightning bolts, raptors etc.) similar to the difference between their Legion & non-Legion Tartarus armour.

As to why they'd wear Indomitus, it's mentioned the VII^th Legion was the first to field-test Indomitus TDA in any significant numbers, which probably comes from the number of images in collected visions depicting IF Indomitus Termies.

As an aside, I did a sketch a while ago to brainstorm what IF-styled Indomitus TDA might look like:

Fallen Angels introduced a flyer named Condor. Maybe they'll make a "Dark Angels only" variant of an existing flyer as they did with Raven Guard.

Deathfire reintroduced the first Terminator armour released in the 80s.

I really hope the Dark Angels don't get a unique flier, at least from FW - the list of unique vehicles they've got in 30k as shown in Angels of Caliban is already pretty hefty.

In regards to morlock and gorgons. All gorgons are morlocks but not all morlocks are gorgons.

I don't think that can be right, as in Retribution, Autek Mor is specifically mentioned to have been leading a Phalanx of Gorgon Terminators - which personally makes more sense to me, because why would you release a unit which is pretty much unusable in the Heresy, owing to the Morlocks being effectively wiped out in the Dropsite Massacre?

[Slips]

You know, IHF, I'd actually be fine with that as a Terminator Suit if its as upright as your sketch shows (Boo hunchback plastic termies). The MK IV-Indomitus helm and Breastplate-with-gorget really do it for me.

[TheCelticRaven]

... Sanguinary Guard

*bitterness at not having full rules intensifies*

[AfroCampbell]

You know, IHF, I'd actually be fine with that as a Terminator Suit if its as upright as your sketch shows (Boo hunchback plastic termies). The MK IV-Indomitus helm and Breastplate-with-gorget really do it for me.

 

I agree tbh,

I think I could totally get on board with IF Indomitus if it was just somehow better looking as a model, I think the GW ones could not look more generic and plain.... studs and Raptor Icons and IF iconography could totally save the day.