Everon Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Datasheets//Sokar-Pattern-Stormbird.pdf So by looking at its equipment and its rules... 130 points more then a thunderhawk and its easily twice as powerful and durable. A nice new go to option for those who ignore death from the skies rules? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326325-sokar-stormbird/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolvin Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 It was nice to be included. Grey Knights can use this. I'd probably still prefer the Mastodon as a force multiplier. Anyway at 850 pts base it won't see a lot of play at the level I generally play at (less than 2000). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326325-sokar-stormbird/#findComment-4516513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 But, for 1k Points, if you buy the Orbital Bombardment Upgrade, you can also shoot out an infinite (1 per turn) S:D 7" Blast Orbital Bombardments. Sure, its always indirect fire, but its a D Weapon that GK dont have to spring Psychic Powers for or Ally in. Though at that cost its only really a thing in games that are 3k+ if you still want to have a functional army to accompany it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326325-sokar-stormbird/#findComment-4516741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Coolpants Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 It's massive and it's 2 kinds of expensive. And 1000pts just to get D? No thanks I'd rather 4 landraiders aha. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326325-sokar-stormbird/#findComment-4516767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 It's massive and it's 2 kinds of expensive. And 1000pts just to get D? No thanks I'd rather 4 landraiders aha. But then each of those 4 land raiders each eat a single melta shot and subsequently explode while having 10 less transport capacity and no Dreadstrike Missiles or Void Shields. And being a Super-Heavy and, thanks to armoured ceramite, immunity to the Melta Rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326325-sokar-stormbird/#findComment-4516781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 I don't play a lot of 3k games where I am, so this has limited interest for me. Same as Mastodon. It's a cool toy for Apocalypse games, but you're unlikely to fit it into smaller games without fielding almost no actual GK. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326325-sokar-stormbird/#findComment-4518707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shagah Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Why does it have POTMS? It is a SH and under current rules can shoot all its weapons at different targets anyway, can't jink and is not effected by most of the Armour Pen table so no reason for the rule I can see. Does this speak to a future rule change? The other thing, it has a note that GK can only use the upgrades listed there i.e. not the ones in its Codex which are all the standard ones that any other SM Codex has, does this mean we could be getting unique veh wargear back? Even Psybolts? That would be awesome on this aircraft with the shear amount of Heavy Bolters it can carry. All speculation of course, but these are odd inconsistencies all the same. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326325-sokar-stormbird/#findComment-4518841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Why does it have POTMS? It is a SH and under current rules can shoot all its weapons at different targets anyway, can't jink and is not effected by most of the Armour Pen table so no reason for the rule I can see. Does this speak to a future rule change? Same reason Malcadors are Fast Superheavy tanks. Its a classic rules oversight. The other thing, it has a note that GK can only use the upgrades listed there i.e. not the ones in its Codex which are all the standard ones that any other SM Codex has, does this mean we could be getting unique veh wargear back? Even Psybolts? That would be awesome on this aircraft with the shear amount of Heavy Bolters it can carry. Possibility of having rules to replace the heavy bolters and lascannons with psycannon, as per the Thunderhawk rules. Would probably jack up the cost even more though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326325-sokar-stormbird/#findComment-4519192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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