Gaming Group encouraging using SM codex for AS, should I?

[Servant of Dante]

Just play with C:AS :)

 

Personally I'll only ever play my Sisters as SM if the AS codex goes the way of the Squats.

I'm a stubborn little jerk :P so even then I would rather homebrew my own SoB codex

[jacqualine47]

Just play with C:AS

Personally I'll only ever play my Sisters as SM if the AS codex goes the way of the Squats.

I'm a stubborn little jerk so even then I would rather homebrew my own SoB codex

I would LOVE to use one of the cool homebrew codexes, but my FLGS is very anti-homebrew - hence why they were encouraging the other route.

BTW: my Grishnak Sisters order arrived today !!!! If you don't have yours yet, don't fret - I paid a lot extra for DHL shipping so they only spent one weekend in transit

I decided that I'm going to stick with the core AS rules and fill out the army with 'allies' as I need it (will still need some list suggestions - I've been not playing for so long that I have no idea what to expect to need to bring to the table). I'm going to try to keep it fluffy by only using stuff that Sisters characters could reasonably get in the FFG RPG rules - so bikes are in, land raiders are out, etc... although I may have to bring my Rogue Trader Sister to the table as a fun project (as per the FFG rules, a Sister becoming a Rogue Trader can and has happened - but is very rare) - and when a Rogue Trader is involved, one can have what one wants pretty much.

EDIT: Forgot to say, my FLGS normally has 2000 point to 2500 point games. A lot of people play 30k lists too, but its mostly 40k decurions.

[CaptainHelion]

Honestly, Inquisitors and Rogue Traders slot absolutely brilliantly in with Sisters thematically.

[dracpanzer]

We don't usually venture into the 2,500 point range.  Takes too long.  Our tourney's are usually 1850 but my usual gaming opponents and I like to play 2k for some reason.  Doesn't matter much to me I guess.  I have run my double CAD 6 Dom list with Coteaz stuffed in the bastion as well at 2k.  Drop the quad gun and it all still fits.  I've been expecting you with four heavy bolters out of the bastion against drop pod SM's is fun.

[jacqualine47]

I don't usually like fortifications... are they really necessary to be competitive, or is it just for the anti-air?  I have several Avengers with autocannons, but is the bastion better?

[dracpanzer]

Not necessary, but it's a great way to keep your Retributors alive, in my 1850 list they are the only unit on foot.  Centrally placed it can have a lot of impact, especially with Coteaz.

[CaptainHelion]

Retributors in a Bastion works particularly well, because the Act of Faith gives Rending to the unit's ranged attacks, so it passes onto the bastion's heavy bolters, too. It's not a bad way to get a couple extra heavy bolters. I like to put a cheap Canoness in with them too, for a BS5 Rending Heavy Bolter.

[Blackarmor_redtruth]

Stay faithful, stay #1.

 

We all know we have an uphill battle and we choose to carry on regardless. While it would be cool to have some Sororitas drop pods in your colors, I think it is easier to get smaller things (smaller as far as Force Org charts...). Perhaps an IK if your super ambitious, but the assassins are a great way to splash a little extra and keep them thematic.

 

My inspiration:

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i342/NoRedPictures/SoB%20art%2014%20-%20flamer%20sniper.jpg

 

My vindicare:

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i342/NoRedPictures/IMG_1844.jpg

[Blackarmor_redtruth]

And to reiterate many above, if anyone is worried about how "competitive" we are, they usually haven't played vs three squads of dominions with meltaguns Outflanking in immolators. Double CAD that if you have to.

 

GL and happy gaming.

[Beams]

And to reiterate many above, if anyone is worried about how "competitive" we are, they usually haven't played vs three squads of dominions with meltaguns Outflanking in immolators. Double CAD that if you have to.GL and happy gaming.

I mean, my competitive list is six domino's in repressors with battles inters in immos. It's super competitive, but it's not fun. (At least for me)

[Knight of the Raven]

I propose option 4: nick ALL THE THINGS from the space marines' armory. Adepta Sororitas predators, vindicators and land raiders, oh my!

[tvih]

Too bad Land Raiders are pretty terrible these days :P

[dracpanzer]

Sure would love to have the flamers off the redeemer for the immolator though. Kind of like they were inspired by the immolator inferno cannon....

 

Speaking of that, the GSC got torrent for their vehicle heavy flamer, makes me grumpy...

[Blackarmor_redtruth]

I propose option 4: nick ALL THE THINGS from the space marines' armory. Adepta Sororitas predators, vindicators and land raiders, oh my!

I never understood why we couldn't do this!

 

And Beam, true true. Gotta find that balance.

[Servant of Dante]

 

I propose option 4: nick ALL THE THINGS from the space marines' armory. Adepta Sororitas predators, vindicators and land raiders, oh my!

I never understood why we couldn't do this!

 

And Beam, true true. Gotta find that balance.

 

I'd rather we not be completely T3 SM + Faith Stuff. I am fine with the rhino, the arbites use it too, but if we need other stuff, couldn't we have something unique? I could maybe see just straight copying the Land Raider into the codex since it is so ubiquitous, and we need an assault transport. I suppose we could have bikes, but . . . seems strange for some reason.

 

Anyway, continue.

[jacqualine47]

Sure would love to have the flamers off the redeemer for the immolator though. Kind of like they were inspired by the immolator inferno cannon....

 

Speaking of that, the GSC got torrent for their vehicle heavy flamer, makes me grumpy...

Yeah... there is a great big list of things other armies have gotten that would have made more sense for sisters... and things that other armies stole from sisters (inferno pistols, hand flamers, troop heavy flamers... etc)... and things that were taken away and given to others (fast transports...).  There is a lot to be grumpy about.  Hopefully we will one day get a codex and become the mistresses of flame, bolter, and melta... but I doubt it.  I expect at best a digital update for 8th with the same models.  That or be completely supplanted by Sisters of Silence.  Thats something for another thread though.

[Arkaniss]

Pretty sure Hand Flamers were a thing for everyone back in the day, I definitely had some with my BA so if anything Blood Angels just got them back ;)

 

Torrent on vehicle mounted heavy flamers and their ilk just seems right to me. Some armies get Torrent and others don't which is a bit frustrating.

[A.T.]

Fluff-wise the immolator should have the same flame weapon as the hellhound (same STC) - though I don't think the two have ever shared stats, even in 2nd edition when it was introduced the hellhound fired a moving template while the immolator had twin overlapping heavy flamers.

 

 

 

Pretty sure Hand Flamers were a thing for everyone back in the day,

Pretty much everyone had them in 2nd. They vanished in 3rd ed and reappeared in the 5e Blood Angels book.

If I had to pick something 'borrowed' from the sisters by another faction it would have to be divine guidance (aka bladestorm/monofilament) - darn sneaky space elves.

[Knight of the Raven]

I'd rather we not be completely T3 SM + Faith Stuff.

The solution is obviously to remove all space marines from the game and give their vehicles to sisters of battle.

 

What do you mean, a "lost cause?"

[Servant of Dante]

 

I'd rather we not be completely T3 SM + Faith Stuff.

The solution is obviously to remove all space marines from the game and give their vehicles to sisters of battle.

 

What do you mean, a "lost cause?"

This is going in my signature right now.

 

Edit: There we go! It took a bit of work, and I had to cut out my Order's battle cries, but I think it was worth it!

[sedibear]

YEAH! Assassins are cool additions to a Sororitas force, and they're thematic since the old Witch Hunters book had them.

 

You can have female versions of everything if that's what you're worried about, too. The old female Tanith sniper is perfect as a Vindicare. The Callidus is female already, and the other two can be made by cutting of spikes off Dark Eldar models.

 

Adding in Inquisition also lets you cover holes, and again are thematic since the old Witch Hunters book had Inquisitors. Heck, we have Battle Conclaves, we can run Death Cult and Crusaders if we took Priests, and most lists already do.

 

Shame about drop pods. We used to be able to do it haha (Citadel Journal 49)