New/Legion specific units.

[Nusquam]

For RG I want Deliverers, Moritat Kill Cadres, and Shadow Wardens.

Deliverers i'm thinking cataphractii, normal termi options, deepstrike, fear, preferred enemy everything when they deepstrike with a small points increase.

 

For Shadow Wardens I'm thinking a command squad with normal options(maybe discounted talons), chosen warriors, retinue, unique, but no banner, everyone with 2W, and stealth+shrouded and more points. Maybe Kaedes Nex style superinfiltrate instead of stealth+shrouded.

 

Then Kill Cadres where you can take multiple moritats.

[Unholyechoes]

For RG I want Deliverers, Moritat Kill Cadres, and Shadow Wardens.

Deliverers i'm thinking cataphractii, normal termi options, deepstrike, fear, preferred enemy everything when they deepstrike with a small points increase.

 

For Shadow Wardens I'm thinking a command squad with normal options(maybe discounted talons), chosen warriors, retinue, unique, but no banner, everyone with 2W, and stealth+shrouded and more points. Maybe Kaedes Nex style superinfiltrate instead of stealth+shrouded.

 

Then Kill Cadres where you can take multiple moritats.

I definitely like the idea of having a pile of moritats hanging out together, that could be....horrific.

[Nusquam]

Thematically yes. Their recent nerfs made them lose a lot of value. Having three though would be fun.

[Gabriel Santar]

we'll never get to see models for the Morlocks (or Gabriel Santar)

I will never forget the time I ran into Alan and asked him about Gabriel at Games Day back when Massacre first came out, and the way that he announced with practical glee 'he can't have rules, he's dead!' I-I just wanted to fight for the Emperor, Alan-sama.

Deliverers would be neat, especially if they have Teleportation gimmicks. That regular Terminators of all Legions can't buy Teleport Transponders never seemed right to me. Keshig will be interesting too, I'm intrigued to see how a Scar Terminator unit would work.

[Unholyechoes]

we'll never get to see models for the Morlocks (or Gabriel Santar)

I will never forget the time I ran into Alan and asked him about Gabriel at Games Day back when Massacre first came out, and the way that he announced with practical glee 'he can't have rules, he's dead!' I-I just wanted to fight for the Emperor, Alan-sama.

Deliverers would be neat, especially if they have Teleportation gimmicks. That regular Terminators of all Legions can't buy Teleport Transponders never seemed right to me. Keshig will be interesting too, I'm intrigued to see how a Scar Terminator unit would work.

The only way I can imagine a WS TDA squad is a full squad of Tartaros leaping out of a Stormbird as it zooms over an enemy, circled by either Scimitars or Outriders.

[Hyaenidae]

I'm still really hoping the IW's get something besides Cata's that the Ultramarines wear better, Havocs that are trying to compete with a gazillion better options, and Iron Circle that... ok, the IC are damn cool, but I'd like a better Elite choice that's more infantry-based. F'rex, some kind of veteran Forlorn Hope force, all rocking various exotic breaching gear, something like that.

 

*mutters darkly, looks at IH Immortals in bitter jealousy*

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

I'm still really hoping the IW's get something besides Cata's that the Ultramarines wear better, Havocs that are trying to compete with a gazillion better options, and Iron Circle that... ok, the IC are damn cool, but I'd like a better Elite choice that's more infantry-based. F'rex, some kind of veteran Forlorn Hope force, all rocking various exotic breaching gear, something like that.

 

*mutters darkly, looks at IH Immortals in bitter jealousy*

 

I had an idea pretty much along those lines a little while ago:

 

Iron Warriors Stormbreaker Veteran Squad:

Based off the idea that IW Legionaries train in multiple specialties, these veterans kinda cross the border between Tacticals / Seekers / Destroyers, with the idea being that they're line-breaker units deployed to force a breach via any means necessary. Think:

Combi-weapons, Heavy Chainswords, Rad Grenades, Breaching Charges, Hardened Armour (and like normal vets, they get a couple of special weapons)

 

 

I did a quick sketch of them here, but it's pretty naff by my current standards, so I may have to do newer versions of all those units at some point

[Terminus]

I'm still really hoping the IW's get something besides Cata's that the Ultramarines wear better, Havocs that are trying to compete with a gazillion better options, and Iron Circle that... ok, the IC are damn cool, but I'd like a better Elite choice that's more infantry-based. F'rex, some kind of veteran Forlorn Hope force, all rocking various exotic breaching gear, something like that.

 

*mutters darkly, looks at IH Immortals in bitter jealousy*

What?! Man, talk about grass is greener syndrome. Siege Tyrants are way way way way way way way better than Fulmentarus.

 

IH Immortals are also pretty weak. You are a true son of Perturabo, bitterly jealous over imagined slights. :P

[Hyaenidae]

Can I be honest? I hate cyclones on termies. It looks like they're carrying mini-fridges on their shoulders for a kegger. I guess I'll just have to see if FW does a decent job on them, but I don't remain hopeful.

 

10 Cata's with TL Ac's? That's more to my taste, personally. It's not a rules thing, it's an aesthetic thing for me.

 

Edit: I want chainswords on my breachers, dammit! That ain't much to ask for. Even the bloody boys in blue get their pretty power swords, lol.

[DuskRaider]

Death Guard:

 Destroyers: Dual Hand-Chem Flamers, Rad Grenades... max. squad size 20, 1 Rad Missile Launcher or Heavy Chem Flamer w/ Suspensor Webbing for every 5 Marines.

 

Word Bearers:

  Gal Vorbak-esque Terminators: I'm not sure, honestly. I don't know if they'd be on 60mm bases since they'd increase so much in size or what... perhaps things like Thunder Hammers, Chain Fists and Power Fists striking at Initiative due to their size. 4++ Invul... Fear... Daemon... Fearless... 2 Wounds... I don't know what else.

 

  Possessed Dreadnought: Kind of like a mix between the HelBrute and 30K Castraferrum Dreadnoughts... 30K Weapons options, but with the addition of things like Soulburner Petard. Perhaps the ability to take a Mark? I'm not sure if they should just be Undivided.

[Soldier of Dorn]

Edit: I want chainswords on my breachers, dammit! That ain't much to ask for. Even the bloody boys in blue get their pretty power swords, lol.

 

Would it matter though? Boarding shields don't allow the extra attack for having 2 ccws (BP&CS) IIRC, so functionally wouldn't a chainsword breacher be exactly the same as a bolter breacher except for shooting?

 

I do wish Phalanx Warders had a wider range of options, though. Going to model mine with all sorts of different power weapons and things, but in-game they'll all have to be power axes. Eugh. Ah well, I don't ever play, anyways, so it's pretty much academic on my part. I can model them however the hell I like. :P

[IronDrake28]

 

Edit: I want chainswords on my breachers, dammit! That ain't much to ask for. Even the bloody boys in blue get their pretty power swords, lol.

Would it matter though? Boarding shields don't allow the extra attack for having 2 ccws (BP&CS) IIRC, so functionally wouldn't a chainsword breacher be exactly the same as a bolter breacher except for shooting?

 

I do wish Phalanx Warders had a wider range of options, though. Going to model mine with all sorts of different power weapons and things, but in-game they'll all have to be power axes. Eugh. Ah well, I don't ever play, anyways, so it's pretty much academic on my part. I can model them however the hell I like. :P

Heavy chainswords though? ;) (Can't remember if they're Two-Handed...)

[Hyaenidae]

Again, my brothers, my bitterness is fed by aesthetics, more than anything. There's just something about that chainsword and shield look that just screams IV Legion to me. 

 

But, then I can't. And I remain bitter.  

 

 Any 'Forlorn Hope' style choices would have been welcome, though. An axe, friggin' chainfists, breaching charges, whatev's. *shrug* I'm exaggerating about my bitterness, of course. Nothing could make me not love the IV Legion. I just wish FW had given me some more breaching options, beyond "flatten them and stride over the rubble". 

 

If I could talk FW into one thing, it'd be an Elite Breacher choice, with IW-ified frag shotguns with breaching mantlets layered with armoured shaped frag charges, with options for breaching charges for the whole squad, or to swap the shotties for chainaxes, and some kind of Death Oath rule. Just spitballin' there.

 

Edit: Or perhaps a rule that would give them zealot, until they were 12 inches from an objective, then it changes to stubborn?

[Noserenda]

Tbh thats what i was hoping IW would get (And what my troops ended up like anyway!) Mossstly inspired by a certain board members amazing efforts :D 

Something like: 

Iron Warrior Trench Raiders
Marine Stats
Stealth, Scout (Not exactly sneaking but sticking to cover like pros) Stubborn within 6" of Objective.
Bolter, Close Combat Weapon, Bolt Pistol, Additional Close Combat Weapon or Astartes Shotgun. Frag and Krak,  Hardened Power Armour.
Any Model may exchange one of the above for a Boarding Shield or Lascutter for +2pts
Whole Squad Meltabombs for +25pts
Vox and Vexilla
1 in 5 May take Breacher Special Weapons, or Chainfists or Grenade Launchers (Possibly with some special grenade to make them not suck)
 

[Elzender]

An idea I had the other day: an Imperial Fists special heavy bolter support squad, all equipped with suspensor webs, hardened armour (just because it fits the VIIth, and to compensate the ability to move and shoot with the heavy bolters) and the ability to shoot overwatch at full BS if they did not shoot the previous turn (or make it like in ZM, and let them make an Initiative test). Maybe a RoW could make them troops to move them away from the disputed Heavy Support slots.

 

It would represent the Imperial Fists preference for bolt weaponry, while being a less common special squad with a less used weapon.

[Corswain]

Thousand Sons sorceror coven. I think we might see one in Inferno, gonna be expensive though!

 

I definitely want Atramentar for the Night Lords. Tartaros Armour, trophies of judgement, lightning claws and extra murdery. I mainly just want to see models for them, not real bothered by the rules because I would buy them anyway.

[Kol Saresk]

I could be wrong, but I think the artwork for the Long Night showed the Atramentar to be Cataphractii.

[Carnivore]

Atramentar all the way. 2W, Fearless (The only Night Lords besides Kheiron Ophion who don't cut and run, understand loyalty, and really embody why the Night Lords were so feared in hand-to-hand), Cataphractii TDA, Teleportation Transponders, and 40k Space Wolves Terminator mix-and-match weapons options (because the VIIIth prizes individuality/despises conformity -  and frankly I just want Dual Chainfists a la the Red Butchers' Devoured lol).

 

I also want the Space Wolves to have Wolf Guard with a badass stateline, and I'd love for SW Praetors to get something like the Mantle of the Elder Drake ("Pelt of the Thunderwolf" - Eternal Warrior) or something like "Fenrisian Blood" - +1 S because they're giant Vikings?) to make them into the CC/challenge monsters they should be. Maybe not the most balanced idea, but that's why I don't write the rules lol.

[Corswain]

I could be wrong, but I think the artwork for the Long Night showed the Atramentar to be Cataphractii.

Yeah but that hasn't really stopped FW from using different armour types before.

Normally I prefer Cataphractii but I just think Tartaros would look cool for Atramentar.

Also I want to be able to chase down fleeing units. Murdering them as they run. That is Night Lords. As I said though, rules aren't terribly important to me so I don't really mind.

 

Atramentar all the way. 2W, Fearless (The only Night Lords besides Kheiron Ophion who don't cut and run, understand loyalty, and really embody why the Night Lords were so feared in hand-to-hand), Cataphractii TDA, Teleportation Transponders, and 40k Space Wolves Terminator mix-and-match weapons options (because the VIIIth prizes individuality/despises conformity - and frankly I just want Dual Chainfists a la the Red Butchers' Devoured lol).

 

I also want the Space Wolves to have Wolf Guard with a badass stateline, and I'd love for SW Praetors to get something like the Mantle of the Elder Drake ("Pelt of the Thunderwolf" - Eternal Warrior) or something like "Fenrisian Blood" - +1 S because they're giant Vikings?) to make them into the CC/challenge monsters they should be. Maybe not the most balanced idea, but that's why I don't write the rules lol.

I like the Fearless Atramentar. Fits with their fluff.

 

Can't agree on the +1 S for Wolves though. Too many examples of giant Astartes across all the Legions for it to be a specific rule for one Legion.

Everyone wants something different though, I guess.

 

Wolves are one of those Legions that I think might get something completely unexpected. It'd be too easy for their special units to be just 30K versions of 40K units.

To fit with the viking vibe, I'd kinda like to see some boarding marines for ship to ship combat. Someone once mentioned harpoons and that image has always stuck with me. Impractical but awesome.

[Tychii]

My atramentar dream has always been -

Tons of weapon options, cataphracti armour.

Ws 5, attack A 3

Counts as 3 models when counting for outnumber

If atramentar outnumber all their attacks gain rending or rending +1.

 

I don't see them getting they 2 wounds treatment, but I know that three attacks is a dream as well. I just feel like this isn't too crazy for rules, fits with the theme a bit, and would allow for some different weapon options.

[Shrieker]

RG - Raptors

Veteran profile w/ Rending and Preferred Enemy: Legiones Astartes

[Shrieker]

Edited

[Terminus]

Edit: I want chainswords on my breachers, dammit! That ain't much to ask for. Even the bloody boys in blue get their pretty power swords, lol.

Would it matter though? Boarding shields don't allow the extra attack for having 2 ccws (BP&CS) IIRC, so functionally wouldn't a chainsword breacher be exactly the same as a bolter breacher except for shooting?

I do wish Phalanx Warders had a wider range of options, though. Going to model mine with all sorts of different power weapons and things, but in-game they'll all have to be power axes. Eugh. Ah well, I don't ever play, anyways, so it's pretty much academic on my part. I can model them however the hell I like.

Functionally a chainsword breacher would be worse because they can't shoot with the pistol and then charge for a total of 3 attacks vs. just 2 for charging with the chainsword. The only Legion who would actually potentially like this are World Eaters, who would be able to swap the chainswords to chainaxes.

[Nusquam]

RG - Raptors

Veteran profile w/ Rending and Preferred Enemy: Legiones Astartes

 

I'm thinking S5 I5 A3 for the first generation, since they really are Space Marines+ and closer to custodes level. Maybe a roll at the start of the game and on a 1 they are mutated, AV drops to 4+ or 5+ but become T5 and gain rending and beasts or something.

[Corswain]

Raptors/Wolfen = basically Gal Vorbak for loyalists. ;)