The_son_of_Dorn Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Think league of shadows. But geared towards good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326584-loyalist-night-lords/page/5/#findComment-4533898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 The Night Lords didn't fire on other 8th legion Astartes Ships in Massacre. They fired on their human auxiliary Allies. They didn't trust them to keep the secret. All astartes ships jumped to Isstvan. The Night Lords are too paranoid to have overt or large cadres of "Loyalists." That said, there could be small pockets who slipped away. Likely even. They could have fought on as Blackshields, or just joined other groups. Some could have even left the Legion for other traitors. The last thing I'll say on the Space Sharks/Raven Guard/Night Lord thing: The Pale Nomads, and Ashen Claws are separate, mostly-Terran chapters of Raven Guard. Pale Nomads are the most likely source for Space Sharks. The Ashen Claws unless they are retconned are rumored to still have a pocket empire in the Ghoul Stars. So if they spawned the Space Sharks, it would be strange to not be pursuing their renegade brethren. There is also at least one Night Lord statue on Titan. It used to point to being Sevatar, but that has been disproven. So we know at least one loyal Night Lord helps to found the Grey Knights. Likely the one earlier mentioned by others in this thread. The Librarian, who was in the prison sinks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326584-loyalist-night-lords/page/5/#findComment-4533945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 There also might be a segment that would delight in bringing the other Legions to "justice". They wouldn't be fighting out of loyalty per se but holding to their core legion's beliefs but mostly delighting that they can do it to other Astartes. Very much like an Alpha Legion reasoning. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326584-loyalist-night-lords/page/5/#findComment-4534224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Any mention of the Carcharadons lineage from this point on gets removed. Move along. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326584-loyalist-night-lords/page/5/#findComment-4534422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 There is also at least one Night Lord statue on Titan. It used to point to being Sevatar, but that has been disproven. So we know at least one loyal Night Lord helps to found the Grey Knights. Likely the one earlier mentioned by others in this thread. The Librarian, who was in the prison sinks. Night Lord statue on Titan? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326584-loyalist-night-lords/page/5/#findComment-4534446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 There is some circumstantial evidence that suggests Grand Master Kyron was a loyalist NL. After reading the excerpt again it isn't as strong as I thought, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326584-loyalist-night-lords/page/5/#findComment-4535467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 · Hidden by Slips, October 18, 2016 - No reason given Hidden by Slips, October 18, 2016 - No reason given There are very valid reasons to think the Carcharodons could descend from either chapter, Raven Guard or the Night Lords. 1. NL are not a chapter 2. I think the RG theory has a lot more support. The NL theory is much more speculative, e.g. Carcharadons are scary...so are NL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326584-loyalist-night-lords/page/5/#findComment-4536108
Kol Saresk Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Any mention of the Carcharadons lineage from this point on gets removed. Move along. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326584-loyalist-night-lords/page/5/#findComment-4536115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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