IA: Astral Gryphons

[Sete]

Hi and welcome to my crib.

 

My intention is to make a chapter from the EC Gene seed.

 

A blackshield warband that later re joined the Imperium.

 

Fleet Based chapter, no psykers, extremely xenophobic, extremely intolerant of mutations, navigators and astrophats included.

 

Recruit from noble families from 3 different worlds, and like to use their "serfs" in combat. Serfs are recruited from the population of those worlds.

 

After work I will expand on this.

[Erasus]

Hello!

Yes I have followed you here . . .

 

A few questions that hopefully aren't covered by the expansion later;

 

1) how do they feel about the Emperor being a psyker?

2) they dislike mutants but do they still use Navigators?

A) if yes, essential mutants are tolerated?

B ) if not, how do they pilot their important fleet in the warp?

3) no psykers, do they still use astropaths?

A) if yes, because they're soul bound to the Emperor?

B ) if no, how do thy communicate with anyone?

4) do they have the arrogance of the EC?

5) Serf armies have come up before, to what extent do these armies operate? Are they akin to IG Regiments or are they smaller in scale?

A) are there external fears of empire building?

6) are they 2nd Founding or 3rd?

7) do they have good/bad relationships with successors of;

A) Guilliman

B ) Manus

8) what Segmentum are these worlds in?

 

 

That's it for now, I'll wait and see what you put up later

[Dosjetka]

Well... Erasus just went ahead and asked all the questions that needed to be asked. Damn. :lol:

[Draakur]

Does the serf-usage denote a particular disregard for typical human life?

[Sete]

Great questions! Which I will answer in due time.

 

Overall:

1- The Emperor is uncorruptible. The Master of Mankind. He is above reproach.

2 and 3- They use Navigators and astrophats out of necessity, not choice. Tolerated not accepted. Like everyone else they have to use them. Not really other choice.

4- Yes a bit. Even more exacerbated because they are all recruited from noble houses. A big sense of entitlement.

5- Not sure about the serfs.

I want to give them close combat weapons and Shield but rules for that are a bit hard to come by. Maybe in the end Carapace armour and hot shot Laguns. Tempestus style.

6- I'm going for 3rd officially. Let's say that they had their own little empire during the heresy and after a while they were brought back into the Imperium fold.

7- Ofc they will have their origins under secret, only the Higher ups of the chapter are privy to that information. So all normal ;)

8- need to have a look at that. :P

 

No disregard for the serfs. Highly trained and valued.

[Sete]

And Fleet Base chapter. Battle Barge Bellerophon.

His myth fits perfectly with the chapter.

[Erasus]

Hello!

 

It's me again :)

Right so question time;

 

1)When you mention Bellerophon, do you mean his slaying the Chimera atop Pegasus? Or his failed attempt to fly to Olympus?

2) if there is such an arrogant streak in their psyche, and they are recruited from nobility, why do they not adorn more ornamental Armour? To convey their imagined superiority.

3) was their empire subjugated willingly or with resistance?

4) what happened to this domain?

5) why did the Chapter become a Fleet based Chapter? Was the domain taken from them?

6)how does the Chapter command feel about their lineage?

7) any known clashes with the current EC?

8) allies?

9) why black and gold colour scheme?

10) are duelists collected into special units or hold ranks of command, or is it more of a generic pastime that translates to the battlefield?

11) does the Chapter look down on its serfs?

12) feelings towards the Mechanicum?

13) on the Ecclesiarchy?

15) where does Gryphon come into this?

 

Ok another battery of questions

[bluntblade]

Alternatively, you could juxtapose their arrogance with a lack of finery. They consider to be above such aesthetic matters, and believe their conduct is enough to demonstrate their superiority.

[Sete]

1- Sent away, killing brothers.(also he rides a Pegasus not a gryphon my bad :P)

2-Imagined? :P I still need to think on this one ;)

3-4-5 Lets say that the place where they were stationed became their small domain during the scouring. After the end of the heresy they willingly gave their possessions to the Imperium (being loyal and all) and formed a chapter. They left some chapter keeps there to recruit.

6- A burning desire to destroy all the traitor scum and xeno filth that corrupted the Legion

7-need to work on that not that far ahead.

8-Imperium in general. Always good to maintain good relations with mechanicus and other chapters

9- Black denotes strength and authority gold courage and grandeur

10- pastime that relates to battlefield. Preference for power swords.

11-Somewhat, like a king looks down to a peasant. But still they have uses.

12- It's the mechanicus. Good relations are a must for ships and armour. Once in a while they even get some MK4 :P

13- It goes against the word of the Emperor. So they don't like religious zealots.

14- ah THE question:

Gryphon is powerful and majestic, Denotes strenght,m military courage and leadership, and a protector from evil and witchcraft.

 

It's all right I dont mind. :)

Males me think and improve.

[Erasus]

Hello!

Yes I have returned!

 

Ah I thought you were using Bellerophon because of his attempt to fly to Olympus, it smacks of arrogance and the folly of thinking yourself a god. After the mention of sobriety, I thought this was a reference to humility. But oh well! Moving on!

 

1) why did they not leave this stationing and move to help the loyalists during the Heresy or help track down their erstwhile kin during the Scouring?

2) as they only recruit from 3 worlds, does this denote the limited size or route of their fleet's journey? As they must regularly return to each one.

3) does their arrogance ever interfere with their alliances? After all, humility is a great way to build friendships

4) do their feelings for serfs translate to all mortal humans?

5) how do they feel about the Mechanicus' cybernetic tendencies?

6) do they feel their own bodies are perfect?

- A ) if so, how do they feel about augmetics?

- B ) if not, is there a more perfect state? Or is this quality not a part of their psyche?

7) how do they feel about their recruitment worlds following the Imperial Creed? As the worlds are not technically under Astartes domain, they would still be subject to tithes and Ecclesiarchal conformity.

8) does the Chapter understand why it hates psykers? Or was this addition a personal preference?

9) any deviant ranks or units in the hierarchy?

10) combat tendencies? If any deviation from the Codex beyond preference for duelling.

11) I have a DIY Chapter that rank themselves with gladiatorial tournaments, would your Chapter do something similar with duelling?

12) duelling with rapiers or sabres?

13) any rivals or nemesis enemies?

14) what happens to recruits that display psyker abilities?

15) what happens to serving battle-brothers who begin displaying latent psyker abilities?

16) any relics kept from the Heresy?

17) is their lineage simply 'unknown' until they reach a rank where they are told the truth?

18) participated in any major events?

19) why would comfortable living nobility wish to be subservient to this Chapter? Does their proclivity for independent power not inhibit this?

 

That's all for now, again this is mostly curiosity and it's fine if you have no answers for these. Hope they prove useful to you!

[Sete]

They are proving useful. As soon as I have a bit of time today I will answer. ;)

[Sete]

Let's do this:

1-Well travel in the warp was dangerous due to the ruinstorm and it was a time where loyalties where difficult to gauge. That does not mean they did not participate in the conflict but it's something I have to think.

2-Lets say they operate in the same segmentum so they can pop up quickly to get some bodies and continue their duties. I think I'm gonna settle them in the Eastern side of the galaxy.

3- Yep. For sure. xD

4-As all (almost) angels of Death they usually look down on mortals. But they respect courage and service to the Emperor.

5-Thats a whole bag of shenanigans that i haven't even considered xD

6-Created by the Emperor.He is above reproach and to tamper with His work is heresy.

7-The Ecclesiarch is powerful, and it's better not to make enemies when you don't have a lineage to back you up. Sometimes you gotta let some stuff pass. Still they don't like it.

8-Its a dangerous mutation, and also Nikea. Word of the Emperor is Law.

9-They will follow the codex Astarte's. But I don't like to use veteran squads. Just Veteran Sargents in the tactical and assault Squads.

10-They will be pretty Vannila. No deviations so far.

11- No.

12- BROADSWORDS!!! :P

13- As you can imagine Traitor EC. Rivals don't know yet

14- Black Ships. The Emperor has a great appetite.

 

Rest of them need to think them through. xD

But probably only the Officials will know the truth of the lineage.

[Erasus]

Hello!

No rest for the wickedly curious, or something like that right? Anywho;

 

1) with the warp in a mess, how did the Chapter know of the Heresy? I'm assuming two things here; first that they were not present at Isstvan due to long distance deployment, and secondly that the Ruinstorm blocks astropaths ( haven't read that far in the HH so honestly have no idea the full ins and outs of the Ruinstorm beside travel)

2) is there a special title or reward for mortals who prove equal to the task? If in their minds that's possible.

3) tolerate the Ecclesiarchy even when they claim that not only is the Emperor a god, but they speak his wishes? (May be trying to start a fight for unknown reasons here . .)

4) the Emperor also said that the Astartes are to serve the High Council of Terra, how do the Chapter feel about Chapter Master Agnathio taking charge of the 'rulers' of Terra after the Scouring, The Beheading, the Nova Terra Interregnum and the Age of Apostasy?

5) does the Chapter lack a 1st Company? The only place Veteran squads are actually rostered.

6) is a broadsword fight less of a duel and more a brawl? I like broadswords but I'm not sure they have the finesse to be used in a way considered "a duel". Down to your personal preference.

 

 

Ah my break at work is over and so I must leave you with these few extra questions. I will/might be back . . .

[Sete]

You are getting quite specific. I just have general outline planned I don't actually have story for the 10k years of the Imperium.

The chapter does have a dead man shoes type of promotion.

 

1st company veterans use Terminator armour. Tartarus ;) need to think on the rest of the outline.

[Erasus]

Hello!

 

Yeah no worries I'll lay off the questions :)

 

The history part is less about what you're going to tell us and more about how you think they'd react, helps you get to know them better if you know what I mean. We don't necessarily ever need to know, but in reality your guys were there so they'd probably have reacted to it, and it might be helpful for your character building if you could imagine what they did.

 

Like I said I expected to reach a point where the questions were too much, too specific and no longer helpful. I love details. I'll let you do some DIYing on these guys, best of luck!

[Sete]

Ahahah let me write the IA article. I'm not going on specific events or timelines. It's just an overall layout for the chapter :)