WarhammerTV just made me shiver

[Grgobart]

I'm quite impressed with people, confident enough in things working out exactly as they expect, to make plans for their armies with models they haven't seen yet! Don't get me wrong, I am as exited as one can be, having heard the anual "Sisters next year" rumour for a decade. But there are a few things, I can think of, that might spoil, whatever plans I might have.

First, with new models, there is always the chance I might not like 'em, period.

Second, whether I like 'em or not, they might not fit in with the old models, the way I'd like them to. Granted, I don't expect there to be differences akin to, between first Tyranids and current ones. But on the other hand, with GW nothing seems too far fetched, when it comes to trying to make money.

The third point is similar to the second, but rather than overall aesthetics, this is about the level of detail. I'm not sure, I'm capable of explaining what I have in mind, but I'll try with an example: Back when we started playing, me and my buddy build some simple terrain or rather ruin pieces ourselves, not very detailed, as you might imagine, but as background to our armies while playing, it was more than enough. One day, another buddy brought along one bought piece of terrain. With its insane amount of detail, it was to be expected to outshine the selfmade terrain, no doubt. But somehow it was even worst than that. It just looked worst together, than another set of terrain would have, made up entirely of pieces half as good as ours.

I don't know if anyone knows this effect, but what I'm trying to say is, things can sometimes not fit together, due to differences in their overall aesthetic, but sometimes also because of differences in amount or degree of details.

But than again, maybe I just worry too much!

[WarriorFish]

There's always a chance new models won't be what you like, that's a risk we'll have to take. It's one I've given some thought to since I've waited many years for plastics... Given their recent escapades in models for 40k I am feeling confident GW will deliver I don't want to entertain the alternative!

[Zoatibix]

Conflicted... do I paint more of my unfinished metal models or conserve my dwindling supply of warlock purple for new plastics...

 

(the replacement screamer pink just looks all kinds of wrong)

Have you tried Vallejo Game Colour Warlord Purple?

 

I'm not going to buy any other gaming stuff from now on. Funds are kinda tight at the moment but I'm going save as much as I can for this...ruleset be damned!

[A.T.]

Have you tried Vallejo Game Colour Warlord Purple?

 

I'm not going to buy any other gaming stuff from now on. Funds are kinda tight at the moment but I'm going save as much as I can for this...ruleset be damned!

I have some on order to try out.

 

Don't think I can avoid the some of the upcoming spend though, already picked up another kasrkin plasmagun (I moved to Sisters from an inquisition force - originally via seraphim filling in for the total lack of fast attack in the DH army) and the prospero box looks promising too...

[Servant of Dante]

There's always a chance new models won't be what you like, that's a risk we'll have to take. It's one I've given some thought to since I've waited many years for plastics... Given their recent escapades in models for 40k I am feeling confident GW will deliver I don't want to entertain the alternative!

Yeah, I'm afraid they'll frak up either the models or the fluff (or both).

But I'm optimistic.

And hey, I adore the current sculpts, so if there's no update, I don't have to worry about GW screwing up them or the fluff. :P

[Brother Captain Ed]

There's always a chance new models won't be what you like, that's a risk we'll have to take. It's one I've given some thought to since I've waited many years for plastics... Given their recent escapades in models for 40k I am feeling confident GW will deliver I don't want to entertain the alternative!

Yeah, I'm afraid they'll frak up either the models or the fluff (or both).

But I'm optimistic.

And hey, I adore the current sculpts, so if there's no update, I don't have to worry about GW screwing up them or the fluff.

Just an observation from reading your other posts: I think there is a roughly 100% chance that you will not like the models, fluff, or both in the event of an update.

Not saying that to be a jerk...you're just rather outspoken about Sisters, man.

[Servant of Dante]

There's always a chance new models won't be what you like, that's a risk we'll have to take. It's one I've given some thought to since I've waited many years for plastics... Given their recent escapades in models for 40k I am feeling confident GW will deliver I don't want to entertain the alternative!

Yeah, I'm afraid they'll frak up either the models or the fluff (or both).

But I'm optimistic.

And hey, I adore the current sculpts, so if there's no update, I don't have to worry about GW screwing up them or the fluff.

Just an observation from reading your other posts: I think there is a roughly 100% chance that you will not like the models, fluff, or both in the event of an update.

Not saying that to be a jerk...you're just rather outspoken about Sisters, man.

haha I'll take that as a complement. Let's just say I spend more time than is probably healthy thinking about Warhammer, and for the last year, the Sisters have held my interest.

I do want to love the new models, but you're right that I'll probably manage to find something to dislike.

[Mard]

There's always a chance new models won't be what you like, that's a risk we'll have to take. It's one I've given some thought to since I've waited many years for plastics... Given their recent escapades in models for 40k I am feeling confident GW will deliver I don't want to entertain the alternative!

Yeah, I'm afraid they'll frak up either the models or the fluff (or both).

But I'm optimistic.

And hey, I adore the current sculpts, so if there's no update, I don't have to worry about GW screwing up them or the fluff.

Just an observation from reading your other posts: I think there is a roughly 100% chance that you will not like the models, fluff, or both in the event of an update.

Not saying that to be a jerk...you're just rather outspoken about Sisters, man.

haha I'll take that as a complement. Let's just say I spend more time than is probably healthy thinking about Warhammer, and for the last year, the Sisters have held my interest.

I do want to love the new models, but you're right that I'll probably manage to find something to dislike.

And honestly It's their IP and fluff to update and change if they have/want to.

Quite honestly some re-writes in the fluff will be welcomed, some not. It'll be like Space marine chapters - you can choose to ignore bits you don't like for your specific chapter/order

[Spacefrisian]

I'm quite impressed with people, confident enough in things working out exactly as they expect, to make plans for their armies with models they haven't seen yet! Don't get me wrong, I am as exited as one can be, having heard the anual "Sisters next year" rumour for a decade. But there are a few things, I can think of, that might spoil, whatever plans I might have.

 

 

 

I myself have always my Order of the Valkeries (aka Daugthers of Russ)  to fall back upon, using Sisters of Averlorn models with PA backpacks (and the SW dex). Speaking of alternate themes, the Barbarians rising show on History (yes actuall a history program) had an episode on Boudica, i might add that into my order as well.

 

note: the army does have a sizeable regular battle sister part to it as well now. As the "marine" part of the army doesnt use any Bloodclaws.

[Noeh]

 

I myself have always my Order of the Valkeries (aka Daugthers of Russ)  to fall back upon, using Sisters of Averlorn models with PA backpacks (and the SW dex). Speaking of alternate themes, the Barbarians rising show on History (yes actuall a history program) had an episode on Boudica, i might add that into my order as well.

 

note: the army does have a sizeable regular battle sister part to it as well now. As the "marine" part of the army doesnt use any Bloodclaws.

 

 

I approve your use of Space Wolves and Sisters!..and not simply because I too use a Space Wolf theme for my girls.

 

I still look forward to the new models though. The codex can't really get much worse than it is already..and if it does..we can just use the old codex anyhow. That's hoping the codex IS updated at least.

[Evil Eye]

Well, if this IS true...I think I'll need to get my own place for all the models I'll be buying. (Or alternatively, I can just corrupt them into reinforcements for my Chaos forces.)

 

Seriously though, plastic Sisters would be a thing of beauty. Please let this be real. I'm just hoping that the plastics are like the Grey Knights- that is, aesthetically almost identical to the old metal figures, but with all the bonuses plastic brings.

[Servant of Dante]

Well, if this IS true...I think I'll need to get my own place for all the models I'll be buying. (Or alternatively, I can just corrupt them into reinforcements for my Chaos forces.)

 

Seriously though, plastic Sisters would be a thing of beauty. Please let this be real. I'm just hoping that the plastics are like the Grey Knights- that is, aesthetically almost identical to the old metal figures, but with all the bonuses plastic brings.

I want to like this post (I want new models that are the same as the current ones too), but you mentioned the mass corruption of Sisters :P

[Evil Eye]

Well, if this IS true...I think I'll need to get my own place for all the models I'll be buying. (Or alternatively, I can just corrupt them into reinforcements for my Chaos forces.)

Seriously though, plastic Sisters would be a thing of beauty. Please let this be real. I'm just hoping that the plastics are like the Grey Knights- that is, aesthetically almost identical to the old metal figures, but with all the bonuses plastic brings.

I want to like this post (I want new models that are the same as the current ones too), but you mentioned the mass corruption of Sisters

Well for what it's worth, fluff-wise I'd justify the presence of Sisters wargear in my force as "Cultists/traitor guardswomen/the hideous spawn of Chaos genetic experiments/whatever clad in looted Sororitas power armour" rather than actual corrupted Sisters. I agree that "CHAOS SISTERS LEL" is a terrible idea.

Anyway, topic.

What theoretical new kits/units would be cool to see in a Sisters reboot? IIRC in the Ultimate Apocalypse mod for Dawn of War, one of the units Sisters got was a Sentinel with an Immolator-style turret, which was pretty cool. Likewise, I'd like to see some kind of Land Raider style heavy tank available for the Sisters to use. Perhaps an open-topped heavy transport vehicle that works as a mobile firing platform for Retributors? A flier seems like an auto-include, and given the sad demise of the classic FW model a plastic Lightning Fighter would be awesome. More characters would be neat, though I'm not sure who exactly could be included without making some new characters (which wouldn't be a bad thing at all).

[Arkaniss]

Considering GW sell a squad of Sisters for £49.50 now I believe anyone who isn't planning on cherishing their old metal models until the end of days is a madman/woman I have long had plans for plastic Sisters - under the assumption that they'd be better then decades old sculpts (one would hope so...!) they were going to be exclusively Celestians. Would make them stand out from the rank and file beyond just a different paint job.

Alas it was so long ago my painting has improved much and so I'm gonna have to re-paint the lot of them. It's no longer a simple add job to my existing army.

New units though...? Would like some kind of new vehicle I think. Some kind of tank version of the Repressor. Up-gunned, up-armoured and up-flamered

[Beams]

I'd like an assault transport for our Conclaves.

A unique special weapon

A heavy weapons option with torrent flamers

 

But really, all I want is a better version of the condemner.

[A.T.]

What theoretical new kits/units would be cool to see in a Sisters reboot?

 

While not to everyone's taste, the old ecclesiarchal units did really help separate the sisters from the marines. The two-page image from the witch hunters book which showed a combined force of sisters, repentia, flagellants, zealots, penitents, priests, saints, and witch hunters (alongside an absurdly huge church-tank) is far more thematic than the ranks of rhinos and meltaguns the sisters are known for.

The Ecclesiarchy is also a good place to expand under-developed units, particularly those unsuitable for the sisters themselves such as deathcult assassin snipers.

 

For the sisters themselves DoW introduced Avenging Angels which is a good way to get superpowered sisters in without resorting to things like centurion-style suits, and i've always liked the idea of a siege-weapon sized stake crossbow. There are also plenty of old named characters and new ones like the Canoness Errant Setheno and the priesthood would need something be it a walking abayant-style platform or a church tank of some description.

 

Beyond that units or rules to bring them into the current era - some air presence for instance (be that old-style lightning and landers or something new), and a superheavy/gargantuan such as a full on saint/hieromartyr (apocalypse c'tan style).

 

 

Wishful thinking though, that's a lot of models.

But really, all I want is a better version of the condemner.

 

The regular condemnor wouldn't be terrible if you could take it in the non-combi form... though very specialist. Alternatively just have the guy carry more than one stake.

[Servant of Dante]

I would like t see an assault transport, and if we are really getting out there, maybe some kind of incidiary barrage tank (but that's not super nessessary, I just don't want to go copy/paste things from the SM codex). That being said, a Susters Land Raider would be neat.

 

While I would love to see more Ecclesiarchal units return, I'm going to be sticking to pure Sisters most of the time (same way I avoid the Battle Conclave and Penitent Engine now, but I still like having them in the codex). It would be fun if a Ecclesiarchal battle forged army with 0 Sisters where possible :P and I love the flavor of the Fraternis Militia (local preacher goes and tells his congregation to go get their pitchforks :D )

 

What I DON'T want to see is some silly squad of "mini-Celestines" since that would just cheapen the fluff of the living saints.

 

. . . If you really wanted to you could have a command squad all armed with 2 Condemner Boltguns (wait, it says "may replace one weapon with one of the following" so I suppose you can't)

[WAR]

I want new models that are the same as the current ones too

I agree 100%

What theoretical new kits/units would be cool to see in a Sisters reboot? IIRC in the Ultimate Apocalypse mod for Dawn of War, one of the units Sisters got was a Sentinel with an Immolator-style turret, which was pretty cool. Likewise, I'd like to see some kind of Land Raider style heavy tank available for the Sisters to use. Perhaps an open-topped heavy transport vehicle that works as a mobile firing platform for Retributors? A flier seems like an auto-include, and given the sad demise of the classic FW model a plastic Lightning Fighter would be awesome. More characters would be neat, though I'm not sure who exactly could be included without making some new characters (which wouldn't be a bad thing at all).

This is strictly wish listing for models, rules, and etc (so don't hit me with the blessed Salt Servant of Dante )

1- Immolators with Fast (again) or torrent preferably torrent

2- A Tank- Baal with options for a Flamer/ Melta/ Bolter class weapon for Turret and Sponsons

3- Pintle mount flamer/ bolter/ melta options

4- Assault transport

5- Frateris milita/ Redemptionst

6- Drop the stupid 3 Priests rule

7- Bring back Confessors/ Missionaries/ Preachers as different options not just "Priests"

8- Palatine

9- Give my Canoness back her Jump pack

10- Flyer in plastic (preferably the Avenger it will sell GW...AdMEch, Astra Militarium , and all the HH players can use it to)

11- PLASTIC Pertinent Engines

12- PLASTIC Exorcist that is not the pipe organ.....not a fan sorry

13- Immolators would be nice to buy again....Still prefer the MKII over the MKIII but a MKI would be nice

14- Land Raider Class transport would be nice (Flame weapon Sponsons, turret heavy bolter, pintle mounted Multi Melta)

15- More Relics and drop the book as a relic and put back into wargear.

16- Did you actually read all these?

17- Formations...duh

18- Special rounds for Celestians

19- Fix the Acts of Faith so they are not one use

20- GRAV CANNONS....Just joking

[Beams]

9- Give my Canoness back her Jump pack

 

This needs to happen.

 

As for exorcist without pipe organ, go for kt. I've already got enough with the help pipes so I couldn't care if they squat that. That being said, the pipe organ is what made me fall in love with 40k.

[Servant of Dante]

I want new models that are the same as the current ones too

I agree 100%

What theoretical new kits/units would be cool to see in a Sisters reboot? IIRC in the Ultimate Apocalypse mod for Dawn of War, one of the units Sisters got was a Sentinel with an Immolator-style turret, which was pretty cool. Likewise, I'd like to see some kind of Land Raider style heavy tank available for the Sisters to use. Perhaps an open-topped heavy transport vehicle that works as a mobile firing platform for Retributors? A flier seems like an auto-include, and given the sad demise of the classic FW model a plastic Lightning Fighter would be awesome. More characters would be neat, though I'm not sure who exactly could be included without making some new characters (which wouldn't be a bad thing at all).

This is strictly wish listing for models, rules, and etc (so don't hit me with the blessed Salt Servant of Dante )

1- Immolators with Fast (again) or torrent preferably torrent

2- A Tank- Baal with options for a Flamer/ Melta/ Bolter class weapon for Turret and Sponsons

3- Pintle mount flamer/ bolter/ melta options

4- Assault transport

5- Frateris milita/ Redemptionst

6- Drop the stupid 3 Priests rule

7- Bring back Confessors/ Missionaries/ Preachers as different options not just "Priests"

8- Palatine

9- Give my Canoness back her Jump pack

10- Flyer in plastic (preferably the Avenger it will sell GW...AdMEch, Astra Militarium , and all the HH players can use it to)

11- PLASTIC Pertinent Engines

12- PLASTIC Exorcist that is not the pipe organ.....not a fan sorry

13- Immolators would be nice to buy again....Still prefer the MKII over the MKIII but a MKI would be nice

14- Land Raider Class transport would be nice (Flame weapon Sponsons, turret heavy bolter, pintle mounted Multi Melta)

15- More Relics and drop the book as a relic and put back into wargear.

16- Did you actually read all these?

17- Formations...duh

18- Special rounds for Celestians

19- Fix the Acts of Faith so they are not one use

20- GRAV CANNONS....Just joking

Yes, I did read all of these. I agree with most all of those (the biggest thing is that I adore the pipe organ exorcist)

[WAR]

My favorite was the FW version...I have a few of those to build. Kinda toying with using the scorpius whirlwind instead tho

[A.T.]

12- PLASTIC Exorcist that is not the pipe organ.....not a fan sorry

13- Immolators would be nice to buy again....Still prefer the MKII over the MKIII but a MKI would be nice

The forgeworld immolator and exorcist kits do combine well with the deimos.

[WAR]

12- PLASTIC Exorcist that is not the pipe organ.....not a fan sorry

13- Immolators would be nice to buy again....Still prefer the MKII over the MKIII but a MKI would be nice

The forgeworld immolator and exorcist kits do combine well with the deimos.

Nice

where did you get the lights.....I've been looking for some like that

[A.T.]

Nice

where did you get the lights.....I've been looking for some like that

 

Thanks.

 

They are from the baneblade kit - I could have sworn forgeworld used them on their own sample image but it seems to have been changed.

[WAR]

iirc they did....time to see if i can hunt some down, thanks again A.T.