ThatMetalhead Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Hq -Remus Ventanus 155 -primus medicae, cataphractii, thunder hammer 140 Troops -20 tacticals with bolter, sergeant with artificier and fist 250 (Ventanus goes with them) -10 tatticals with bolter, sergeant with artificier and fist, rhino with dozer blade 195 -5 support, plasma, rhino with dozer blade 215 -5 support, melta, rhino with dozer blade 215 Elite -apotecary, artificier, power sword, augur array 70 -10 terminator cataphractii, 5 chainfists, 2 pairs of lighting claws, 1 fist, sergeant with fist, spartan with dozer blade, ceramite and flare 790 -contemptor-mortis with double kheres 180 -centemptor-cortus with fist and chainfist 145 Heavy support -heavy support of 5, laser, sergeant with artificier 245 -heavy support of 10, heavy bolter, sergeany with artificier and augur array 250 -vindicator, dozer blade, machine spirit 150 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326923-ultramarine-3000/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare84 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 for 3k its very light in armour and anti armour. at this points level most people can deal with a spartan if there is no other major threats. a single vindicator is generally a bad idea as it will get focus fired. vindi i find work excellent in pairs or 3s i dont know your meta, but we are pretty fluffy/uncompetitve people in my group and i couldnt see your list working very well against any of them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326923-ultramarine-3000/#findComment-4535396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatMetalhead Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 I'm working to improve this list, when i'll find a new composition i'll add tge new list here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326923-ultramarine-3000/#findComment-4536400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3nn3rs Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I think you have alot of points tied up the heavy support sqds, which unless I'm mistaken, get very little in the way of buffs for ultramarines - I'd reinvest those points into something 'heavier' to compliment the Spartan & terminators. You could get leviathan in a DDP for example - that would certainly add some punch and take the pressure off the Spartan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326923-ultramarine-3000/#findComment-4536867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Heavy Supports can be good. 10 guys with missile and a Siege Breaker can deal with any vehicle in a turn that doesn't have flare shields. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326923-ultramarine-3000/#findComment-4538683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3nn3rs Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 that's pushing 450pts with minimum upgrades. Whilst I'm sure that unit would deal with light/ medium armour and MEQ it would leave the list dangerously light on anti tank capable of dealing with heavy armour/ knights/ super heavies, a capability which is needed at 3000pts. What buffs does Ventanus provide? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326923-ultramarine-3000/#findComment-4538993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3nn3rs Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Just checked Ventanus' rules With his fearless banner I'd add him to the terminators - much more suitable then the tacs and makes the terminators very difficult to shift - even if up against a primarch and elite body guard unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326923-ultramarine-3000/#findComment-4539736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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