Ada Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Hi, I have just bought some Deathshroud and I'll using them tomorrow for the first time, something I can't get my head around though, pardon me if I'm missing something blindingly obvious or whatever but this will only be my 5th game of 40k so I'm still finding my feet with some of the rules. So, my problem, first off the stats: The Deathshroud scythe has the following special rules Unwieldy, Reaping Blow So unwieldy rule puts the user at initiative stage 1, a serious disadvantage already yes? Now, when I'm looking at the Reaping blow rules I see even worse news for DS: Reaping Blow: Models using a weapon with this special rule fight at -1 Initiative in assault. -1 initiative, so they're now worse than initiative stage 1? Is this correct, and if so what on earth does this do for the DS, it seems like a serious limitation to me. As I said earlier, excuse me if I'm missing something really obvious, I feel like I've been looking at this for way to long now so I've probably missed something in the first place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Scythes arent unwieldy unless you can provide a book and page reference. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4538469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I think you're mixing up the new scythe rules with the old ones. In the current legion astartes age of darkness legions book, scythes just have reaping blow giving them -1 initiative, and not the unwieldy rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4538478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ada Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 I think you're mixing up the new scythe rules with the old ones. In the current legion astartes age of darkness legions book, scythes just have reaping blow giving them -1 initiative, and not the unwieldy rule. Thanks buddy, I was taking my rules from a battlescribe list, which still retains all of the unwieldy rules and adds the reaping blow rule to this. Hence my confusion. -1 initiative makes much more sense now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4538578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
olsol Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Not to mention it adds +1 Attack if you have more than one enemy in base contact Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4538635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Basically they strike at Initiative 3, and add an extra attack if more than one enemy is touching the Base. Brutally effective cc and anti-horde unit I've seen in action on more than one occasion. I do strongly recommend you pick up the latest books to avoid confusion as mistakes in army building software lists are common place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4538685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ada Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 Good advice Ishagu, and something I'll be doing very soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4538696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I've got ten of them and love them. Pick your targets wisely tho. Anti horde they are great, anti terminator they are also great as strike before powerfists/poweraxes at ap2 but I wouldn't run them in to any death stars. In ZM they absolutely excel! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4538938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ada Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 Music to my ears Playing a ZM encounter tonight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4539625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Remember all templates ie the hand flamers have shred as you already have shred you get +1str so strength 4 shreding hand flamers!!!. Pay the 5pts each for the melta bombs as dreads will be a prob. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4539873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ada Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 Went up against a Mechanicum force, they're some tough cookies, rad grenades help though Typhon and his Deathshroud tore through a 6 man Thallax unit and magos. Took one turn longer than I hoped though (my opponent rolled 4 6's to keep one alive!!). So they didn't get to cause anymore carnage with the game ending at turn 5. The DS were awesome though, I'm considering another 5 that's for sure. Thanks to all that helped me out with this rule Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4540800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptix Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Best part about Death Guard is that they can run a viable all-termie list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4541402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 I really like Mortarion. He can operate as an independent, Fast moving, harassing Primarch :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4541406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ada Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 Best part about Death Guard is that they can run a viable all-termie list. Yes indeed! The horror on my opponents face when he realised I was running 21 Termies was priceless. Not quite the entirety of my force but certainly over half. My ten man termie squad went down hard though against three Castelax. Ishagu, I have Morty but not had chance to run him yet due to point restrictions, I look forward to the day I finally get the big man on the battlefield. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4541559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Remember In zone mortalis he can redeploy ANYWHERE. Through walls, across the room etc within 10" Go for battle automata as your scythe kills them in one wound. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4541693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Morty is a deamon in zm!! His redeploy makes him amazing! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4541903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptix Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 I think I had a list with more termies for 1850 it was: Praetor with Paragon or Power Scythe (MC either way), Tartaros, and Digi Lasers, running PoTL 2 x Medicaes with Cataphractii and Volkites 2 x 10 Legion Terminator with Cataphractii, 9 Volkites, Reaper Autocannon, 5 Chainfists and 5 Power Fists 4 Deathshroud 5 Grave Wardens with 3 Chainfists/All Chainfists if Praetor took Power Scythe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4541947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Yay, walking cataphracts with overpriced 15" guns! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4544177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Yay, walking cataphracts with overpriced 15" guns! Gotta say I agree? A couple of Medusas or a good super heavy would ruin the army very quickly? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4544852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptix Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Yeah there's that but we're not very competitive around here (I don't even HAVE a Medusa...). This list obviously isn't for tourneys, and there is the fact that it began as a ZM list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327056-reaping-blow-deathshroud-terminators/#findComment-4551197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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