Cryptix Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 http://img.memecdn.com/praise-the-sun-dark-souls-2-is-finally-here_o_2929713.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4542736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 9 months after mr sicaran went to bed with miss jetbike he learned that he had a son. What would mrs sicaran say! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4542746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3nn3rs Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 Now with upcoming Hover Tank: Â https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/blog/blog.jsp?_requestid=8734405 Â Â WOW. That's an immediate game changer... Â The plans for my second Heresy army are now in disarray.... good thing I play IF and can easily ally them in! Â Book 7 can't come quick enough!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4542753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 So do we have any idea how 30k is going to handle the Banner or HQ choices? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4542759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Santar Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 How exactly are these guys ever going to make it across the field? The shield guys seem alright, but contrary to what FW might think Sniper, Plasma & Melta blobs, as well as half the Mechanicum armoury, are a thing. Adding at least ~50pts for any likely transport just to ferry a unit that isn't that much better than a Terminator squad across the board seems bordering on ridiculous.And as for that floating...'thing': Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4542785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. They seem a bit meh at the moment. Â I think we'll need to see the whole picture, but they'll suffice I recon. Â S6 AP2 on the charge generating additonal hits is nice, but the 2A stat is... Lacking. Â As is the fact the blurb says they are faster but they are base initiative 4... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4542795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol_Invictus Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016  I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. They seem a bit meh at the moment.  I think we'll need to see the whole picture, but they'll suffice I recon.  S6 AP2 on the charge generating additonal hits is nice, but the 2A stat is... Lacking.  As is the fact the blurb says they are faster but they are base initiative 4...   I think that is really it. They would seem a lot better with the extra attack and initiative or even just one or the other. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4542822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Â Â Â Â I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. They seem a bit meh at the moment. I think we'll need to see the whole picture, but they'll suffice I recon. Â S6 AP2 on the charge generating additonal hits is nice, but the 2A stat is... Lacking. Â As is the fact the blurb says they are faster but they are base initiative 4... I think that is really it. They would seem a lot better with the extra attack and initiative or even just one or the other. They do have the special rule giving +1 Initiative when they have higher WS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4542828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Â Â Â I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. They seem a bit meh at the moment. I think we'll need to see the whole picture, but they'll suffice I recon. Â S6 AP2 on the charge generating additonal hits is nice, but the 2A stat is... Lacking. Â As is the fact the blurb says they are faster but they are base initiative 4... I think that is really it. They would seem a lot better with the extra attack and initiative or even just one or the other. They do have the special rule giving +1 Initiative when they have higher WS. Â "Equal to or greater than the majority WS of the enemy." Means they are I5 against any unit of WS5 or less, even if there is a WS6 character in there. Plus extra attacks on 6s if they use their spears. I think they look nasty enough, but not an auto-include, which is pretty perfect IMO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4542848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I think WS6 like the 40k versions would have been nice instead of BS5. And the extra step of initiative. Â But then these guys would really be stepping on Preator level characters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4542901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDrake28 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I think WS6 like the 40k versions would have been nice instead of BS5. And the extra step of initiative. Â But then these guys would really be stepping on Preator level characters. Only the captain is WS6 in the 40k rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4542920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I think WS6 like the 40k versions would have been nice instead of BS5. And the extra step of initiative.  But then these guys would really be stepping on Preator level characters. I mean, unless they charge a solo WS6+ character (ws6 units are pretty rare) or get their WS reduced, theyre pretty much always going to be I5. Otherwise, I find it exceedingly hilarious that 30k Guardian Spears let you shoot and charge whereas 40k ones dont.  The fact that theyre all characters and have no sergeants also helps push the idea that these are individual warriors fighting together rather than a Unit.  That 3" coherency is also pretty nifty at making them extra hard to get nipped by Template weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4542921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I wish they'd used the Chosen Warriors rule rather than making them all full characters. They have the rule there to let Custodes get into challenges, but avoid all the wound shifting shenanigans that come with all character units, why not use it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4542925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 30K rules are here: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326935-leaked-ac-sos-rules-compilation/?p=4542682 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4542959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 At least now we know why Fulgrim went traitor. He and his prized phoenix guard tried so hard to emulate the Emperor's guardians, yet fell so far short of the mark. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4543021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Amusingly enough, for "pale imitations" of a guardian spear, the phoenix spears do the exact same thing in melee. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4543086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I find it interesting custodian guards go up to nine models instead of ten.#theemperorisreallytzeentch #whatatweest Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4543088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Amusingly enough, for "pale imitations" of a guardian spear, the phoenix spears do the exact same thing in melee.They are missing the bolters, the Phoenix Guard are just displacing their insecurities on their weapon. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4543097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Well... that's the coolest damn thing I've ever seen.Abso:cussinglutely. I guess there are more and I can't wait to see their transport. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4543126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 9 months after mr sicaran went to bed with miss jetbike he learned that he had a son. What would mrs sicaran say! She's going back to her maiden name of Venator! Funny you should say this, the first thing that popped into my head when I saw that tank is "this is the inevitable result of all those sicarans all those skimmers". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4543144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Merged both Custodes and SoS threads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4543205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Those 30K rules are perfect. Tough but not out-of-balance tough, they're threatening but they're killable. I love it. Â 40K rules weren't doing it for me, 30K are brilliant. My Iron Warriors might be Loyalists after all. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4543629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 These rules are a LOT more balanced than the 40k ones (like most 30k stuff, actually). It'll be good to see the SoS's rules, as I'm interested to see if they really keep AP2 at iniative for the Sisters' swords. Also, the Custodes+SoS list is gonna have to have a few HQ's, right? Hopefully we'll get some decent/fluffy rules for Valdor (he beat Horus in a duel!) and some Custodes/Sisters HQ's... Dunno what to expect with the Talons of the Emperor list, really. Oh, and that floaty deodorant stick looks HIDEOUS, imho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4543642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Hopefully we'll get some decent/fluffy rules for Valdor (he beat Horus in a duel!) and some Custodes/Sisters HQ's...That Valdor beat Horus thing isn't really a thing. Nobody knows where it came from, there's no source.That being said, I want him in the character series and I want him to make Primarchs sweat. I'm not 100% that he will though. If the Emperor is to the Custodes what the Primarchs are to Space Marines, then where does Valdor fit? He'd be like a Custodian version of a Praetor, I guess. He's the best at what he does, but he's still "just" a Custodian. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4543646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen11 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I have 0 will to use them in my Alpha legion...which is a good thing,lol. I was afraid they will be OP, and they ended totaly mediocre. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327116-sisters-of-silence-custodian-guard-rules/page/3/#findComment-4543747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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