Brother-serpent Tylydox Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 The Horus Heresy Primarchs, book 2: http://i64.tinypic.com/2cftlyt.jpg http://i67.tinypic.com/35i0m4z.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/29pq7mx.jpg http://i66.tinypic.com/2ltm54k.jpg http://www.blacklibrary.com/Home/Leman-russ-LE-page.html Are we allowed to copy the free extract here, posted on the BL website in the mobi format? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I put the links in the Leman Russ forum in the News section (and was semi-annoyed when the book specific thread was folded into the model one because it stopped book discussion ) Is no one excited about the Leman Russ novella? Did noone else read the first chapter excerpt available on the BL site??? It was great - a prologue focused around the first Blood Claws, the first intake after the heresy and the conversion of the VI Legion into the Chapter, from Tra to the third Great Company. And a cunning, very Propsero Burns-esque, way to use this as a frame to the meat of the story - i.e. it appears to be a novella about storytelling itself and forgetting, like PB! Really that is more exciting than the model Wait is this the one with the LE edition releasing next week? Just trying to make sure my Rune Priests aren't missing something interesting. Yeah it is, you can download free excerpts in mobi and epub: Mobi - http://www.blacklibrary.com/Downloads/Product/ePub%20and%20MOBI%20Extracts/L/Extract-Leman-Russ.mobi Epub - http://www.blacklibrary.com/Downloads/Product/ePub%20and%20MOBI%20Extracts/L/Extract-Leman-Russ.epub Or on the page, As it's free extract, and no fee has been transacted, one wonders. It might still be subject to copy write, in which case fair dealing comes into play. See this handy guide from Leeds Uni. However recent novels with free extracts still have these after publication, like Praetorian of Dorn, so maybe not - these sections at least are freely available online until the publisher decides not to, so possibly can be used in whatever way? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4540261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-serpent Tylydox Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4540314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I'm a bit confused. It features the brawl between Johnson and Russ, right? That happened before the heresy, correct? Why does it cover Blood Claws and the Legions transformation into a chapter (even to only a slight degree)?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4540497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 It'a a framing narrative, the story is supposed to be recounted by Russ to a new recruit after the scouring. Give the extract a look. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4540571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 To quote the end of the extract: ‘One of Aeska’s whelps,’ said Leman Russ, drawing closer, his strange eyes shining in the dark. ‘No wonder you left the hall. Bloody sagas. I’ve heard them all.’ Haldor couldn’t tell if he was jesting. ‘They told of the Allfather,’ he said, hesitantly, wary of the danger in the primarch’s every move. Russ was like a blackmane, huge, unpredictable, bleeding with danger. ‘They said you fought Him. The only time you lost.’ Russ barked out a laugh, and the fur mantle shook. ‘Not the only time.’ He shrank back into the shadows then, seeming to diminish a fraction, but the danger remained. [...] ‘I know not whether you were sent to mock me or bring me comfort,’ Russ said at last, ‘but sent you were. So listen. Listen and remember.’ Haldor stayed where he was, not daring to move, watching the huge, fur-clad outline under the Mountain’s heart. Russ was speaking like a skjald. ‘I fought the Allfather, that is true, and He bested me, for the gods themselves fear Him, mightiest of men. But that was not the only time.’ The eyes shone, points of sapphire, lost in the grip of ice-shadow. ‘There was another.’ It neatly sets up a recounting of the feud's origins that way. I like it, it is in-character and I'm looking forward to hearing what Russ has to comment on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4540622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Itll be interesting to see if Wraight will keep a third person perspective, even one close to Russ, or go all out and have it written in Russ's voice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4540631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I'm certainly hoping for the latter. At least as a narrator to lead in chapters, reminding the reader that hey, the wolf lord is telling you this stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4540680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I need this book. The origin of the DA/SW feud? Hell yeah! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4540818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Really looking forward to how Wraight handles the Lion We all know he does Russ quite superbly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4541708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Assist Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Whilst interesting, it's far too much for even an LE novella. It's a shame as the other HH SW LE novel is also ridiculously priced. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4541933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Aaand another historical moment of the 40K lore gets de-mystified. No longer will we wonder whether the account from the Dark Angels or the Space Wolves is closer to the truth, as now we get a fully detailed account. ‘I fought the Allfather, that is true, and He bested me, for the gods themselves fear Him, mightiest of men. But that was not the only time.’ The eyes shone, points of sapphire, lost in the grip of ice-shadow. ‘There was another.’ I think he forgot how he got beaten by Angron. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4541986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 We know that Russ considers the fight with Angron a case of stooping to conquer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4542054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karden00 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 · Hidden by Jarl Kjaran Coldheart, October 23, 2016 - Discussed FW rules, not BL novels Hidden by Jarl Kjaran Coldheart, October 23, 2016 - Discussed FW rules, not BL novels Oh man.... The civil war that will start up between BA and SW fanboys if Sanguinius is not shown to come out on top of Russ... I realize that it can get awfully tiresome nitpicking statistics as FW would have them, but I can't help but feel like they must be aware of the statement they are making when they throw out only the second WS 9. Russ has more skill with weapons than Horus? I am a big believer in the thought of Horus being The Best Period, and I realize that Horus has disabling strike, which I'm sure will more than even out anything that Russ will bring to the table. But what is the utility or rational behind statements like giving a WS like that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4542069
b1soul Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 We know that Russ considers the fight with Angron a case of stooping to conquer. Not really "stooping"... more like charging at Angron with weapons drawn, only to be thoroughly dominated in front of his men Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4542362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Aaand another historical moment of the 40K lore gets de-mystified. No longer will we wonder whether the account from the Dark Angels or the Space Wolves is closer to the truth, as now we get a fully detailed account. ‘I fought the Allfather, that is true, and He bested me, for the gods themselves fear Him, mightiest of men. But that was not the only time.’ The eyes shone, points of sapphire, lost in the grip of ice-shadow. ‘There was another.’ I think he forgot how he got beaten by Angron. "There was another" doesn't mean "there was only one other time" ...would also depend on Russ' definition of "bested" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4542364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 When did Russ fight Angron? What book I mean. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4542506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 It is brought up in Betrayer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4542537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 · Hidden by Jarl Kjaran Coldheart, October 24, 2016 - Off topic and unconstructive Hidden by Jarl Kjaran Coldheart, October 24, 2016 - Off topic and unconstructive Aaand another historical moment of the 40K lore gets de-mystified. No longer will we wonder whether the account from the Dark Angels or the Space Wolves is closer to the truth, as now we get a fully detailed account. ‘I fought the Allfather, that is true, and He bested me, for the gods themselves fear Him, mightiest of men. But that was not the only time.’ The eyes shone, points of sapphire, lost in the grip of ice-shadow. ‘There was another.’ I think he forgot how he got beaten by Angron. "There was another" doesn't mean "there was only one other time" ...would also depend on Russ' definition of "bested" Please do not show it as another 'honorable' act of the dogs. Please, all the Gods of the Warp. I was so hopping to see russ slapped for good and now it could be possibly retconned to show the honour of space dogs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4542648
Mellow Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 He lost quite magnificently to Angron. It was to prove a point over having superior tactics but it could have cost him his life as Angron is the greatest melee fighter of all Primarchs. No exceptions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4542800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Vulkan's physically stronger, however. He just never lets himself off the leash. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4542833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 another round of primarch top trumps? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4542894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 another round of primarch top trumps? Not here, not enough visibility to make it worth my while. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4542929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Vulkan's physically stronger, however. He just never lets himself off the leash. Except maybe in Unremembered Empire? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4542945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Let's keep this discussion on topic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327117-leman-russ-the-great-wolf-by-chris-wraight-le/#findComment-4542958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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