ValourousHeart Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 They had the new box set at my GW store this weekend and I was able to compare the new Sisters of Silence models with a couple of my Sister of Battle models. So I thought I would share my first impressions. First off there is a significant size difference. The SOS are noticeably taller and the SOS are on 32 mm bases. The details on the SOS are amazing and it speaks volumes about what we can expect for future SOB releases. But some of the bits a very delicate, as in one of the swords is only attached at the knuckles. Awesome and nerve racking in equal measure. Personally I'm not a big fan of the head designs. Most appear to be shaved heads with top knots and the helmets seem to just be face masks and sculpted to look like they held on by being looped around the top knot. I really hope this isn't continued in the SOB line. I had plans to replace the bases for my SOB with the new Realm of Battle bases, but I think I'm going to delay that until I know what size base the new units will be. While the size difference is a little concerning, I'm not sure some of the small details would be possible if the model was smaller. Given my experience with Robotech RPG Tactics models and most of the small bits breaking on the spru, I can deal with the slightly larger scale on the SOS models and possible size difference on new SOB models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Personally I'm not a big fan of the head designs. Most appear to be shaved heads with top knots and the helmets seem to just be face masks and sculpted to look like they held on by being looped around the top knot. I really hope this isn't continued in the SOB line. The face masks (which are supposed to be face masks, by the by) have been part of the Sisters of Silence "design" for a while. I wouldn't worry too much about Sisters of Battle getting anything other than the proper, fully-enclosed Sabbat helms that we all love. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4542812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaniss Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I have to say I'm not sure why you're comparing the models in such detail? SoS and SoB are two entirely different ranges, any aesthetic choices made for SoS will be irrelevant in regards to SoB. We don't have to worry about top knots on our Sisters after all ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4542814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 If you were talking allying in some SoS to your SoB then they will perhaps not be so different... such a combination would teach those witches a lesson or two! The SoS would offer some CC punch too which wouldn't be unwelcome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4542842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValourousHeart Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 I have to say I'm not sure why you're comparing the models in such detail? SoS and SoB are two entirely different ranges, any aesthetic choices made for SoS will be irrelevant in regards to SoB. We don't have to worry about top knots on our Sisters after all ;) Well I'm also leaning toward the idea that SOS will be a unit in the new SOB codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4542851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Well I'm also leaning toward the idea that SOS will be a unit in the new SOB codex. I still can't figure out why people believe/hope for that. But it does explain why you'd want to compare them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4542867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeh Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 If you were talking allying in some SoS to your SoB then they will perhaps not be so different... such a combination would teach those witches a lesson or two! The SoS would offer some CC punch too which wouldn't be unwelcome. Not just a CC punch. If the "leaked stats" are correct, they will be a significant advantage against psychers. They apparently offer a 6 inch immunity to psychic powers near their unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4542873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaniss Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I would be very surprised if so. They've never been linked in such a way before and I have to say I don't think they should be. There is nothing stopping you from taking them with any Imperial army so I would say there is no real need for them to be in the SoB codex - you can already use them with your Sisters right now! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4542875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeh Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 As a correction to my post, looks like they sorta changed it around a bit. This still seems incredibly good though.All psychers within 12" get -3 ld and don't generate warp charges. Plus they only get warp charge points on a roll of a 6 and the unit they're attached to can't be affected by psychic powers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4542904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendal1989 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Yeah, I wish we could take them. I agree that they may be a good indicator that they can do the sisters justice when they get around to them. I think they are a good ornate and armored sculpts that did females well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4542922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Well I'm also leaning toward the idea that SOS will be a unit in the new SOB codex.I still can't figure out why people believe/hope for that. But it does explain why you'd want to compare them. I honestly think that Sisters of Silence will be treated in a similar manner as the Legion of the Damned - an Elite choice, but allied in as a separate entity like the LotD. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4542934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Not just a CC punch. If the "leaked stats" are correct, they will be a significant advantage against psychers. They apparently offer a 6 inch immunity to psychic powers near their unit. Not exactly leaked - it's up for download from GWs website - https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Datasheets/Burning%20of%20Prospero%20Imperial%20Datasheets.pdf 17pts per model for a power armoured, psychic immune, celestian-like sister with a flamer, or just 15pts if you prefer S4, I5, AP2 close combat attacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4542938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeh Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Yeah, I wish we could take them. I agree that they may be a good indicator that they can do the sisters justice when they get around to them. I think they are a good ornate and armored sculpts that did females well. But we can take them.... Oh and I just saw the set of rules for them. I'm really liking how cheap they are for what they can do. Hopefully a sign of cheaper sisters in the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4542944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Ed Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I have to say I'm not sure why you're comparing the models in such detail? SoS and SoB are two entirely different ranges, any aesthetic choices made for SoS will be irrelevant in regards to SoB. We don't have to worry about top knots on our Sisters after all True, but they are both unaugmented, adult human females with Imperial wargear. If plastic Sisters are coming, then the SoS can give us a much greater vision of what to reasonably expect than other female plastics like Dark Eldar Wytches. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4542982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Wouldnt suprise me that GW works them into Battle Sister lore in some way. And seeing there rules they are pretty amazing, you can instantly clear everything the opponent has been so busy carefully casting, like bonus to invulsave, gaining fnp etc etc. Its like having that certain Assasin without the weakness of being a single model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4543005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeh Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 The current biggest issue with the SoS...you can't use them in 40k normally. They're only available for houserules or unbound according to GW itself. They are a faction of themselves even though they can ally with IoM. But they don't have any force organization slot at all. I may see if my local group would allow them as Elites or something.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4543036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 The current biggest issue with the SoS...you can't use them in 40k normally. They're only available for houserules or unbound according to GW itself. They are a faction of themselves even though they can ally with IoM. But they don't have any force organization slot at all. I may see if my local group would allow them as Elites or something.. To be fair the Sisters don't lose as much as other factions by going unbound - objective secured battle sisters and a re-roll on the warlord chart for the canoness. And without obsec you'd just be taking dominions and retributors for your infantry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4543045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeh Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 The current biggest issue with the SoS...you can't use them in 40k normally. They're only available for houserules or unbound according to GW itself. They are a faction of themselves even though they can ally with IoM. But they don't have any force organization slot at all. I may see if my local group would allow them as Elites or something.. To be fair the Sisters don't lose as much as other factions by going unbound - objective secured battle sisters and a re-roll on the warlord chart for the canoness. And without obsec you'd just be taking dominions and retributors for your infantry. True, but local limitations can prevent you entirely from using them. There's a lot of people out there that don't like unbound even in friendly games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4543050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I like the models, I don't like that their rules are basically "all the stuff Sisters are supposed to be good at, but we do it better" That being said, a guy at the shop says he's getting the new box, and doesn't want the SoS, so he offered to just give them to me. I can't say no to something like that! Also, yeah, keep them out of the Sisters codex. They are neither Adepta Sororitas nor Ecclesiarchy. Edit: but by the Emperor those are some awesome rules, and some cool models. I will most certainly play with them if I get the chance (ask for a rematch with the 2v2 game where one of the chaos players had like 12 Mastery levels on the table). I'll make an exception to my normal "single faction" rule for the SoS. Maybe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4543209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoatibix Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 True, but they are both unaugmented, adult human females with Imperial wargear. If plastic Sisters are coming, then the SoS can give us a much greater vision of what to reasonably expect than other female plastics like Dark Eldar Wytches. Agreed - and I think the point of Brother Valorousheart's comparison. I'm not wildly taken with the SOS figures stylistically but they do look like they're going to war rather than out clubbing*. However, the sculpting, posing and base size could well be indicators of the future. *Of course, one should always be ready to club heretics and traitors, no matter one's attire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4543885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 True, but they are both unaugmented, adult human females with Imperial wargear. If plastic Sisters are coming, then the SoS can give us a much greater vision of what to reasonably expect than other female plastics like Dark Eldar Wytches. Agreed - and I think the point of Brother Valorousheart's comparison. I'm not wildly taken with the SOS figures stylistically but they do look like their going to war rather than out clubbing*. However, the sculpting, posing and base size could well be indicators of the future. *Of course, one should always be ready to club heretics and traitors, no matter one's attire. A Brazier of Holy Fire makes quite a walking stick when it would be impolite to carry a flamer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4544283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Well both the Space Marines and the Imperial Guard got larger when they went to plastic. One the other hand the Skitarri dont seem too big for what they are. So maybe GW scaling plastics are better these days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4556765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomericus Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Anyway to get a pic posted of them side by side? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4560592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValourousHeart Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 Yeah I can bring a couple with me today and snap some shots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4560919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomericus Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 THank you Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327192-sisters-of-silence-with-sisters-of-battle-differences/#findComment-4560943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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