Master Antaeus Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Last night, nearly against my will (I prefer Heralds of Ruin), I ran an introductory game of Kill Team and two standard games after that. I don't normally post in this forum, but it seemed relevant since I used Skitarii to shake things up last night. Some Highlights: I played against Space Marines for the tutorial games, one player has been at it about a year and the other was just starting. The relevant stuff below was versus the more advanced player. Infiltrators Sicarian Infiltrators with Power Sword and Stubcarbines are absolutely ill. You can afford 5 of them with a conversion field on your alpha for a kill team game, and even against a mobile army full of bikes, these guys cruise around the table and absolutely hack to pieces anything they can get their hands on. I thought hit and run would be amusing on a specialist, but I ended up not needing it. Honestly, the Stubcarbines did most of the work and my opponent was so happy to get his hands on one of them after surviving shooting and overwatch that he was absolutely devastated when I told him about neurostatic aura. It goes without saying that Dunestrider not only lets them eat up the distance to gunlines, but also allows them to always seek BLoS cover. The lack of grenades hurts them, but honestly, if they'd had grenades, I would have felt like I was cheating. 9/10, would employ to murder again. Skitarii Vanguard Skitarii Vanguard are just as hilariously good in kill team as they are in every other game. Radium carbines put out ork numbers of hurt with space marine accuracy and honestly, even moving forward the whole time, I ended up "forgetting" about rad-saturation so that the new player would come back to the game after we both spent two turns slogging toward the objective. Over three turns, the lone arc rifle killed the enemy razorback, while weathering not much return fire (other vanguard were ahead and killed everything non-vehicle that got close. The space marine or two that did get into close combat just flailed uselessly and as stated above, to keep the player in the game, I decided not to tell them about rad saturation. The wrong move? Perhaps, but I stand by my decision. 9/10 would irradiate with again. Skitarii Rangers Rangers were the glaring disappointment in that they were roughly on-par with the space marines they were fighting. Two shots from fairly far away, the transuranic arquebus was good against the razorback, but didn't really blow my skirt up with anything but its range. Useless in CC, but what did you expect? 6/10 would hold objectives and plink from afar again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327234-skitarii-kill-team-post-mortem/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostramar Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I've not tried Kill Team myself, but this surely makes me want to! Nice to get some hard-data on the matter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327234-skitarii-kill-team-post-mortem/#findComment-4544379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Antaeus Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 Skitarii have, in my opinion, a huge advantage because their points costs take into account the assumption they will not be in a vehicle; something that makes a lot less difference in Kill Team. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327234-skitarii-kill-team-post-mortem/#findComment-4544418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Interesting about the power sword variant, everyone usually runs them with tasers, but I guess in kill team where you are not dealing with terminators and the like it works well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327234-skitarii-kill-team-post-mortem/#findComment-4544433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Yeah, KT seems like a totally different kettle of fish. Things that are questionable or crummy in normal 40k games can suddenly become much scarier, especially character upgrades. Thanks for the data, brother! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327234-skitarii-kill-team-post-mortem/#findComment-4544462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 ^ One of the reasons I love alternate game modes like Zone Mortalis and City Fight (and I guess I gotta add Kill Team to that too), you can play the game at the skirmish level it was born, and low-end stuff that just gets wiped out in larger conflicts can actually do well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327234-skitarii-kill-team-post-mortem/#findComment-4544553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I had a riot back in 4th building an IG Veterans KT. I may have to pick up a box of Skitarii and kitbash with some IG/Astartes bits to make a serious Ranger team (Rule of Cool only). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327234-skitarii-kill-team-post-mortem/#findComment-4545519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I had a riot back in 4th building an IG Veterans KT. I may have to pick up a box of Skitarii and kitbash with some IG/Astartes bits to make a serious Ranger team (Rule of Cool only). I kitbashed astra and rangers and I have to warn the IG heads and Imp guard head don't match at all, so some filing and greenstuffing is in order to fix them up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327234-skitarii-kill-team-post-mortem/#findComment-4546804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Hmm, wonder if the Tempestus heads match up with Skitarii bodies? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327234-skitarii-kill-team-post-mortem/#findComment-4547269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Well, Skitarii heads match up with Tempestus bodies so it's probably close enough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327234-skitarii-kill-team-post-mortem/#findComment-4547286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter h Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Skitarii, as well as scion and GSC, all match up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327234-skitarii-kill-team-post-mortem/#findComment-4547418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Hmm, those Tempestus helms with goggles and rebreathers would look pretty sweet on Skitarii bodies . . . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327234-skitarii-kill-team-post-mortem/#findComment-4549932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Thanks for the report Antaeus! So what would be your optimal list based on this experience? Would you drop the Rangers and just take Vanguard. Infiltrators sound very effective but they're also rather expensive for Kill Team as you can only get five models in under the 200 point limit... Do you find the disallowance of the Doctrina Imperatives weakens them much? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327234-skitarii-kill-team-post-mortem/#findComment-4552261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithrilForge Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Hmm, those Tempestus helms with goggles and rebreathers would look pretty sweet on Skitarii bodies . . . like this?... Mithril Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327234-skitarii-kill-team-post-mortem/#findComment-4553751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Haha, yes exactly! This is the second time you've linked that conversion; maybe I should take the hint, eh? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327234-skitarii-kill-team-post-mortem/#findComment-4555633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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