Prot Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 So anyone excited about this one? I just pre-ordered and can't wait to hear the story of Crowe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Been excited for this trilogy since David dropped the first hints. I haven't cared that much for the Grey Knights since their Draigo-Codex hit, so I'm not as familiar with Crowe and co as I'd like to be. So yes, I'm looking forward to it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4549937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
veterannoob Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 During the Grey Knight episode interview w/David he stoked my interest. I'll check it out, indeed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4550015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sothalor Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I want to be, but I find myself pretty cold on David Annandale's works these days. Death of Antagonis was a mess of ideas and execution, Damnation of Pythos felt like a pointless sideshow padding out an already bloated series, and the Sons of Titan collection just didn't engage me: I found the prose dry, the characters lackluster, and something about it as a whole package just didn't work for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4550034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I feel that technically Annandale is better than the likes of Thorpe, Swallow, and Kyme ...though I do think out of these three, Kyme has shown a the most improvement That said, I agree that Annandale's stuff is a bit too dry at times Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4550067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Grey Knights - meh. Their problem is the enemy they fight. From all the SM chapters/Legions they are the only one who hasn't killed at least 1 real enemy. All the daemons they banished, imprisoned would be back eventually - so all the struggle is pointless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4551712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDrake28 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Grey Knights - meh. Their problem is the enemy they fight. From all the SM chapters/Legions they are the only one who hasn't killed at least 1 real enemy. All the daemons they banished, imprisoned would be back eventually - so all the struggle is pointless.Couldn't you say the same about fighting 'Nids or Orks though? It's better to stem the tide than let them overrun. Which is pretty much one of the main themes of 40k. I do hope this book is good, I've wanted something on Crowe for a while. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4552536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Grey Knights - meh. Their problem is the enemy they fight. From all the SM chapters/Legions they are the only one who hasn't killed at least 1 real enemy. All the daemons they banished, imprisoned would be back eventually - so all the struggle is pointless.Couldn't you say the same about fighting 'Nids or Orks though? It's better to stem the tide than let them overrun. Which is pretty much one of the main themes of 40k. I do hope this book is good, I've wanted something on Crowe for a while. As a story of a superhuman spirit dominance it would be good, I'm sure. As a story from the 'war' side of things - we will see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4555953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrick Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Is it just me, or is it 10$ less on iTunes than BL? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4557552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Angel Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Is it just me, or is it 10$ less on iTunes than BL? It's only £2.49 on iTunes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4557650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Is it any good? That seems like a lot of money to spend on a story. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4557875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrick Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 i havent started it yet, but it is not a short story, but a full novel or novella (i never remember the difference) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4557894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 i havent started it yet, but it is not a short story, but a full novel or novella (i never remember the difference) It's a full novel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4557984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 It was pretty decent. Did a good job of delving into Crowe's mindset before he got the blade and after. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4559303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Currently reading Annandale's Sons of Titan (well, what I haven't listened to yet at least), figured I'd like to get a feel of his GKs before going in for Crowe, who I know so little about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4559424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Is it just me, or is it 10$ less on iTunes than BL?It's only £2.49 on iTunes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4559627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I want to be, but I find myself pretty cold on David Annandale's works these days. Death of Antagonis was a mess of ideas and execution, Damnation of Pythos felt like a pointless sideshow padding out an already bloated series, and the Sons of Titan collection just didn't engage me: I found the prose dry, the characters lackluster, and something about it as a whole package just didn't work for me. Hussah! At last someone sees Death of Antagonis and Damnation of Pythos for what they are. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4561766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 Well the book has started off okay.... so I wonder how many people have read it yet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4562577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Well the book has started off okay.... so I wonder how many people have read it yet? OK standard is not what fans striving for ... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4562685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Nah, they're striving for unrealistic standards. Not every book can be the most amazing. If everything's above average, nothing is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4562822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Nah, they're striving for unrealistic standards. Not every book can be the most amazing. If everything's above average, nothing is. But still if you try you could write a masterpiece - look Wraight with 'Path of Heaven' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4563410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shady Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I feel that technically Annandale is better than the likes of Thorpe, Swallow, and Kyme ...though I do think out of these three, Kyme has shown a the most improvement That said, I agree that Annandale's stuff is a bit too dry at times I think he goes on about the spiritual element too much and he is quite dry. I really have to push myself to finish anything David writes. Guess it's down to personal preference. It's a mixed bag with BL too. Authors have good days and bad days and an author is only as good as his/her Editor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4563732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I actually think the spiritual themes are one of his strengths. Its not just spiritual in terms of religion (though he tackles it a lot with Word Bearers, Sororitas and even outside of BL with Gethsemane Hall and his Kaiju Rising short story), but also symbolism and figureheads affecting events beyond their human reach. Its similar with Guilliman. A lot of Roboute Guilliman: Lord of Ultramar is about Roboute being a figurehead, and reflecting on what his presence means, and why he has to take relative risks in decisive moments. His preparations for abdictation too play into that theme, as does the contrast to how the Destroyers don't fully respect and recognize their new Chapter Master, whereas everyone respects Guilliman as their Primarch. He dabbles in a lot of esoteric themes, and I think that makes him a good pick for writing Grey Knights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4563896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarn Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I just finished it. I didnt hate the authors other stuff, its written well enough but can be a struggle to finish. In my opinion this book was a major disappointment. Dry bolter pron. If you have any questions about the dichotomy of a character like Crowe, this book doesnt just answer any of them, it doesnt even ask. Id give it a 2/5. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4569290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Finished it - for the point of soul struggle and waro influence it's deserve 5 stars. From the point of view of SM/GK/W40K novel it deserves 2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327441-warden-of-the-blade/#findComment-4571524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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