b1soul Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Which ones do we know of? BA - killed by Amit and his buddies NL - killed UM - survived an encounter with Curze, barely Any others? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 IF - sent to Terra reluctantly. I think they may have been meant to appear in Master of Mankind at one point? The book's focus may have shifted. SoH - never got to the Warmaster's side, realised how pointless it would be once they heard about Isstvaan. Met up with the Raven Guard in Weregeld, aiming to join up with Russ's attack on Horus at Yarant. Presumably we'll find out what happened once we know more about Yarant. RG - Never found Corax, were sent to get arms for Russ's attack on Horus. Were cut down by the RG Raptors in Raptor. AL - attempted to kill Alpharius in Hunter's Moon, thought they succeeded (). They were killed one by one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4551881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 IF- Died of Boredom. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4551910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Inducted into the Legions and polluting the Chapter's purity for thousands of years? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4551914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 One of the NL watch pack was sent back to Terra in scraps He barely survives and I think becomes a Knight Errant Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4551918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 yay. another thread were we can discuss SW's dying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4552036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 yay. another thread were we can discuss SW's dying. VIth are the flavour of the month at the moment with the release of their legion packs and primarch on Forgeworld! Expect lots of it over the coming weeks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4552043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 yay. another thread were we can discuss SW's dying. VIth are the flavour of the month at the moment with the release of their legion packs and primarch on Forgeworld! Expect lots of it over the coming weeks! What legion packs? All I see are some chest pieces and an old dreadnought. And IRL releases are moot when discussing BL fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4552050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 yay. another thread were we can discuss SW's dying. VIth are the flavour of the month at the moment with the release of their legion packs and primarch on Forgeworld! Expect lots of it over the coming weeks! What legion packs? All I see are some chest pieces and an old dreadnought. And IRL releases are moot when discussing BL fluff. I dont want to spin this thread off topic so I will make one final comment to clarify what I meant. IRL releases have an effect on what legions people are playing at the time and what legions they are interested in. Due to the VIth getting some love recently, people are starting to land on them, creating threads and putting the focus lenses on the Legion. --- I am curious what would have become of the packs sent to the Iron Warriors, Dark Angels and more importantly, the Iron Hands and Salamanders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4552061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Give the Black Library time, they'll think of ways to kill those watch packs Double points if the Iron Hands then used their super secret zombie maker to restore the Wolves as pawns. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4552084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Give the Black Library time, they'll think of ways to kill those watch packs Double points if the Iron Hands then used their super secret zombie maker to restore the Wolves as pawns. Was just going to say... haven't we all had enough of The Walking Dead? Or do we want to see 14 Wolf packs die? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4552092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Would the Salamanders even get one? Like, we are so super loyal bruh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4552586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 yay. another thread were we can discuss SW's dying. and another thread where SW players can say how hard done by they are It's the heresy, Loyalists died by the droves its the during the scouring and onwards when the wolves started to shine Was it the Emperor who ordered the watch packs or was it Russ who came up with the idea that no legion was trustworthy so since he was he got to keep watch on his brothers. I wonder did the scars have any doesn't seem to be any mention in their novels unless I missed something Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4552604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Was it the Emperor who ordered the watch packs or was it Russ who came up with the idea that no legion was trustworthy so since he was he got to keep watch on his brothers. I wonder did the scars have any doesn't seem to be any mention in their novels unless I missed something Malcador. It was specifically for watching the primarchs rather than the legions. Kind of a small-scale equivalent to the installation of the chaplaincy after Nikaea, which all things considered went a lot better and 'stuck' a lot more than the watch-packs initiative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4552637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 One of the dumbest ideas by Malc Guaranteed to breed resentment That said, wanna know what happened to the WS watch pack Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4552671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Brushes Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Weren't the White Scars right on the very fringes of known space at the outbreak of Heresy, separated from he rest of the Crusade by warp storms? I would imagine that the watch pack might never have reached the Khan if they were truly that far out. Maybe they regrouped with Russ at Alexxis pre/post Alpha Legion :cuss:ery. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4552710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 yay. another thread were we can discuss SW's dying. and another thread where SW players can say how hard done by they are It's the heresy, Loyalists died by the droves its the during the scouring and onwards when the wolves started to shine That's 'cause, we are. It's not a coincidence that pretty much every SW player is unhappy with BL and FW right now. One of the dumbest ideas by Malc Guaranteed to breed resentment That said, wanna know what happened to the WS watch pack I've begun to look at the watch-packs as sort of canaries in a mine feel (analogy courtesy of WLK ). That doesn't mean they should just die like in the books (Hunter's moon, Fear to Tread, etc...). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4552714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 One of the dumbest ideas by Malc Guaranteed to breed resentment That said, wanna know what happened to the WS watch pack They're close to the imperial court, they're already disliked by some other legions, their deal is their reliability, why not use the SW? Malcador doesn't seem to have had the authority to use the Custodes. It does fit into a wider pattern of central imperial decisions at the end of the crusade that were breeding resentment amongst the primarchs: taxation and the increasing role of the administratum, the creation of the council of terra (which the primarchs weren't granted seats on) the spread of the remembrancers, the emperor returning to Terra and the elevation of Horus. It's all consolidation and increasing the importance of 'normal' humans in the governing of the imperium. Means a lot less free reign for the 18 superhuman warlords who have been running the show but it fits with what we've seen of the overall trajectory of the Emperor's plans. yay. another thread were we can discuss SW's dying. and another thread where SW players can say how hard done by they are It's the heresy, Loyalists died by the droves its the during the scouring and onwards when the wolves started to shine That's 'cause, we are. It's not a coincidence that pretty much every SW player is unhappy with BL and FW right now. One of the dumbest ideas by Malc Guaranteed to breed resentment That said, wanna know what happened to the WS watch pack I've begun to look at the watch-packs as sort of canaries in a mine feel (analogy courtesy of WLK ). That doesn't mean they should just die like in the books (Hunter's moon, Fear to Tread, etc...). Not every SW player is unhappy, merely a (very) vocal minority on B&C. Some of us greatly enjoy - and have actually read - much of the BL/FW output and don't hinge our attraction to their background on a balance sheet of listed victories and imagined insults. And hell, the watch packs did about as well as could be expected. The Alpha Legion watch-pack managed to take out multiple AL targets and steal a ship before getting killed. The UM watch pack mostly survived a primarch in full kill-mode and managed to protect Guilliman's mother. The BA pack made a good account of themselves against the daemons on Signus before being killed by Amit's men. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4552804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 It would be a hell of a hobby project to make a watch pack for each legion and give them some touches of the host legion to represent the time they spent with them / the battles they fought together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4552869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 That would be pretty cool... also make a good excuse to build a few interesting kill teams. Ie, if you are a salamander player, build a cool SW kill team and be done after about a dozen models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4552891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 I don't think many of them were there long enough to actually pick up their host Legion's mannerisms in such a way. I mean they were sent out around roughly the same time as Horus had turned right? A lot of the packs didn't even have Legions to attend to, after Istvaan. Very cool idea though, very cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4552908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 yay. another thread were we can discuss SW's dying.and another thread where SW players can say how hard done by they are It's the heresy, Loyalists died by the droves its the during the scouring and onwards when the wolves started to shine That's 'cause, we are. It's not a coincidence that pretty much every SW player is unhappy with BL and FW right now. One of the dumbest ideas by Malc Guaranteed to breed resentment That said, wanna know what happened to the WS watch pack I've begun to look at the watch-packs as sort of canaries in a mine feel (analogy courtesy of WLK ). That doesn't mean they should just die like in the books (Hunter's moon, Fear to Tread, etc...).They were sent to every legion in order to watch over them to make sure they did not break he edict, of course a good number of those they were sent to watch were planning to betray the imperium with Horus. No trace of their treachery was to be found out before they stuck so of course they would kill one measly squad who could possibly send out a warning. Look at the custodoes sent to the word bearers (though there is no mention of a SW pack you can kinda guess what happened) they were keep under close supervision as well as isolation so they didn't know about the WBs treachery until it was too late the same would of happened to the SW or any legion if they were sent instead of the wolves. They were one small squad against a whole legion who would of caught them by surprise not even the custodoes stood much chance against the traitors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4553284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 yay. another thread were we can discuss SW's dying.Man, you're bitter enough to be an Iron Warrior. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4553331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 ++ Alright folks, all three AoD mods are tired of cleaning, editing and closing Space Wolf topics. We want to be able to have nice things. Keep it together. Please and thanks. ++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4553629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted November 5, 2016 Author Share Posted November 5, 2016 The BA pack made a good account of themselves against the daemons on Signus before being killed by Amit's men. I honestly thought they died in such silly fashion "Brother, you must not succumb the ra-" *throat slashed* There was no emotional impact, no exploration of the watch pack's interaction with the BA...I can't stand that book Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327502-fate-of-the-sw-watch-packs/#findComment-4553747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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