Since SoB might be happening soon...

[Canadian_F_H]

I decided to jump on Battlescribe and quickly make a small list of a SoB force suitable for allying to my IG or Crusade, with a fun little mix of units...

 

And it ended up being 1800 points... lol

 

So,

 

2x10 SoB, flamer, heavy flamer, SI, SS, combiflamer, repress or

10 repentia in repressor

10 dominions 4xmelta, SI, SS, combimelta, repressor

2×5 seraphim, 2 inferno, SS, power sword

10 retributor, 4x HB, SI, SS, combiplasma, repress or

 

Cannoness, powersword, rosarius, EW relic...

 

1725ish if I remember correctly...

 

Boy things sure do get out of hand...

[Aqui]

Boy things sure do get out of hand...

That's how it starts...

[Servant of Dante]

I decided to jump on Battlescribe and quickly make a small list of a SoB force suitable for allying to my IG or Crusade, with a fun little mix of units...

 

And it ended up being 1800 points... lol

 

So,

 

2x10 SoB, flamer, heavy flamer, SI, SS, combiflamer, repress or

10 repentia in repressor

10 dominions 4xmelta, SI, SS, combimelta, repressor

2×5 seraphim, 2 inferno, SS, power sword

10 retributor, 4x HB, SI, SS, combiplasma, repress or

 

Cannoness, powersword, rosarius, EW relic...

 

1725ish if I remember correctly...

 

Boy things sure do get out of hand...

Just get a Sisters army. You know you want to . . . :P

 

In terms of the list, I usually just go with 5 dominions? Most every list I see takes a min size squad in an Immolator (or a Repressor if the person owns one). They Outflank, they nuke something, and generally, they are martyred. You get the 4 meltaguns regardless of squad size.

 

I love Seraphim (the sweet smell of burning tau as your hand flamers hit all the floors of the ruins 4 times on the deep strike . . . ), and I like Retributors, so no argument here :)

 

I like the BSSs. Flamers are my favorite of the holy trinity (and therefore of all weapons) :P even when they aren't the most effective choice, they are often the most fun.

 

Repentia are hard to use. They would do well with an assault transport (with the FAQ you would have to start them outside it then pile in first turn). You will need to either use them as a reactionary force (so I've been told; I'm not good at that kind of playstyle. Too much of the Black Rage in me) or I might try sneaking them around the side of the board in a transport and hoping they go unnoticed until it's too late. But they are kinda fun (and can get 3+ FnP, in the current codex)

 

For the canoness, I always give her the Mantle of Ophelia (that's the EW relic) and a rosarius. For the weapon, a Power sword mathhammers better vs models with a 3+ save, otherwise the Power Maul is better. Actually, there might be a case for a power axe, but I think I'm going to do the math right now . . . I just pay the extra 15 points and get an Evicerator :)

[A.T.]

In terms of the list, I usually just go with 5 dominions? Most every list I see takes a min size squad in an Immolator (or a Repressor if the person owns one). They Outflank, they nuke something, and generally, they are martyred. You get the 4 meltaguns regardless of squad size.

 

While i've not run them this way myself I have seen one or two players with 9 dominions and a priest. I think the theory that they will stick around unless your opponent puts in the extra effort applies more to the older books though.

[Canadian_F_H]

I'm just suck on the idea of full squads, this is more from a collection standard, actual deployment may vary...

 

But believe me, it bothers me to no end that I can't run 10 man command squads in my marines anymore... why they did that I can't grasp...

 

Also, IG PCS and CCS should be allowed to buff to 10 men too imo. . But oh well...

[Warsmith Aznable]

I'm just suck on the idea of full squads, this is more from a collection standard, actual deployment may vary...

 

 

I have enough for 10 woman squads, but never do this for Retributors or Dominions. Mobile MSU is the only way I've found to even have a chance at winning games these days. Filling out Battle Sisters squads to give longevity to anchor positions isn't a bad idea, though. Those girls take a lot of abuse early on.

[Servant of Dante]

I'm just suck on the idea of full squads, this is more from a collection standard, actual deployment may vary...

I have enough for 10 woman squads, but never do this for Retributors or Dominions. Mobile MSU is the only way I've found to even have a chance at winning games these days. Filling out Battle Sisters squads to give longevity to anchor positions isn't a bad idea, though. Those girls take a lot of abuse early on.

Yeah, BSSs, Seraphim, and recently some Retributor squads are the only ones I fill out a lot . . .

I do enjoy a blob of 20 Sisters, even if they don't do super well in-game :)

[Drider]

I run 3 units of Dominoes set up as 5 girls, 4 meltas in an immolator with twinlinked multimelta. Which all comes in at 165 points per unit with the option for dozerblades and/or laud hailer on the immo.  I value redundancy over survivability. 
 

[Beams]

I run 3 units of Dominoes set up as 5 girls, 4 meltas in an immolator with twinlinked multimelta. Which all comes in at 165 points per unit with the option for dozerblades and/or laud hailer on the immo.  I value redundancy over survivability. 

 

I do a similar thing, but use (converted) Repressors.

That way you don't ever have to leave it, and it's only 180 pts for a unit that can handle anything (4 melta guns AND a heavy flamer)

The only thing I'd add is maybe a 6th girl with a Simulcrum.

It's slightly less shooty but way  more survivable, at only a small upcharge.

[Servant of Dante]

 

I run 3 units of Dominoes set up as 5 girls, 4 meltas in an immolator with twinlinked multimelta. Which all comes in at 165 points per unit with the option for dozerblades and/or laud hailer on the immo.  I value redundancy over survivability. 

 

I do a similar thing, but use (converted) Repressors.

That way you don't ever have to leave it, and it's only 180 pts for a unit that can handle anything (4 melta guns AND a heavy flamer)

The only thing I'd add is maybe a 6th girl with a Simulcrum.

It's slightly less shooty but way  more survivable, at only a small upcharge.

 

I never found the Dominions AoF to need a Simulacrum. Even if they do live long enough to use it twice, they rarely need it twice. And if the Simulacrum dies before they use the AoF the first time, they lose it altogether. I don't think it's usually worth the points, but I don't have any repressors.

[Canadian_F_H]

Well... repressor being their thing, Gw may very well make a plastic repressor kit (or combo with immolator kit) this go around...

[Drider]

@Beams
I'm not really fussed about the repressor, I'm usually pretty liberal with my use of Dominoes anyway and try to headshot their typical primary targets on turn 1 before they can do any real damage. Scout 12", move 6" disembark 6" usually puts you in a good position to bring your meltaguns into range of 2+ save or T5+ or AV targets and remove them from the table before they can get started. That and they're great bait. Purposely miss play a unit on the scout move into a somewhat vulnerable position to draw high value target into a trap. When someone T1 charges your Dominoes in their transport they often can't see the fact you've got 75% of your army in position to pounce on them.

@SoD
Agreed, Dominoes not worth buying a Simulacrum for. IMO Simulacrum is only worth buying for HF/HB Rets and 20 sister blob squads. Everything else that can use one isn't worth buying one for.

[Servant of Dante]

@Beams

I'm not really fussed about the repressor, I'm usually pretty liberal with my use of Dominoes anyway and try to headshot their typical primary targets on turn 1 before they can do any real damage. Scout 12", move 6" disembark 6" usually puts you in a good position to bring your meltaguns into range of 2+ save or T5+ or AV targets and remove them from the table before they can get started. That and they're great bait. Purposely miss play a unit on the scout move into a somewhat vulnerable position to draw high value target into a trap. When someone T1 charges your Dominoes in their transport they often can't see the fact you've got 75% of your army in position to pounce on them.

@SoD

Agreed, Dominoes not worth buying a Simulacrum for. IMO Simulacrum is only worth buying for HF/HB Rets and 20 sister blob squads. Everything else that can use one isn't worth buying one for.

This is the same conclusion I have come to.

Wow, this makes me feel bad about how I play the game My tactics never go too deep . . . I should work on that, but I'm lucky if I can go a game and remember to use all my AoFs before I start rolling, and to not get excited and accidentally skip most of a phase because one of my units is doing something cool :D

I'll look into doing something like this. First I have to find an opponent that isn't playing a gunline of some kind. Maybe the space puppies . . .

[Beams]

I very rarely take my dominoes out of their transport. Unless the transport explodes.

Since you've got so many firepoints, you can fire all your meltas without a hitch.

 

The simulcrum matters if you are playing against tyranid or other races that get a huge use out of cover saves. A Jinking bike list? Ignores cover meltas for days. A couple 'thropes hidden away protecting a barb heirodule and some big bad bugs? Ignores cover and you can worry about the scary things first, then kill the little buff bugs.

 

Also, repressors are easy to convert. A little Plastic card, some greenstyff and the desire to paint murals helps alot.

 

I usually take at least 3 dominios, because of the people I play against.

[Servant of Dante]

I very rarely take my dominoes out of their transport. Unless the transport explodes.

Since you've got so many firepoints, you can fire all your meltas without a hitch.

 

The simulcrum matters if you are playing against tyranid or other races that get a huge use out of cover saves. A Jinking bike list? Ignores cover meltas for days. A couple 'thropes hidden away protecting a barb heirodule and some big bad bugs? Ignores cover and you can worry about the scary things first, then kill the little buff bugs.

 

Also, repressors are easy to convert. A little Plastic card, some greenstyff and the desire to paint murals helps alot.

 

I usually take at least 3 dominios, because of the people I play against.

Ah. I go up against a lot of 3+ saves, and not too much jinking madness :P good point though. I'm not sure I have the drive to convert repressors.

[Jolemai]

I guess this can go here, but there's rumours of the SoB being rolled in the Agents of the Imperium Codex alongside the Inquisition, SoS, Custodes and *possibly* Assassins.

 

Now I know this is likely to be pure speculation, but assuming it was accurate, would you be for or against such a move?

 

Snippet mentioned here

[A.T.]

I guess this can go here, but there's rumours of the SoB being rolled in the Agents of the Imperium Codex alongside the Inquisition, SoS, Custodes and *possibly* Assassins.

Now I know this is likely to be pure speculation, but assuming it was accurate, would you be for or against such a move?

 

Codex:WH was solid, but the sisters current sad state is partially as a result of them being 'rolled in' to a book - the faction has no depth as it was not expanded as a self sufficient army and no breadth as what they did have was chopped down to make space for the other factions they were sharing a book with.

 

If it's the only way forwards, which it may be, then so be it - but factions don't always come out of book sharing in very good states. See the current inquisition.

[Beams]

I guess this can go here, but there's rumours of the SoB being rolled in the Agents of the Imperium Codex alongside the Inquisition, SoS, Custodes and *possibly* Assassins.

 

Now I know this is likely to be pure speculation, but assuming it was accurate, would you be for or against such a move?

 

Snippet mentioned here

I'd be fine with this, so long as we don't lose too much. I still play mine like witch hunters (Inq. And Tempestus) at times, so I understand the appeal. That being said, I do not want to lose Penitent engiens, Exorcists, St. Celestine or Seraphimore.

I'd be OK with losing of Repentia, Dominions or Retributors, but I wouldn't be happy about it.

[Warsmith Aznable]

Combining factions into single codexes doean't really fit the current trend, unless it's a warzone book.

 

Losing anything without gaining something new would be tragic at this stage. What would the point of plastic Sisters be if they remained a sideshow army with token effort by GW? I'd rather they leave us alone with the status quo than actively downgrade us.

 

This is why I don't get excited for rumours anymore. I'm happy playing my army, I don't want to lose MY Sisters so GW can recruit new buyers for a less complete, watered down version who are second class citizens sharing a book.

[Servant of Dante]

If we don't lose units, I'll just grumble and pretend the non-Sisters pet of the codex doesn't exist.

 

If we lose things, I'll be mad, but I'll still keep playing my sisters and pretending the rest of the codex doesn't exist.

 

What would really make me mad is if GW goes changing the Sisters aesthetic or established fluff. I try not to think about that possibility too much.

 

We are getting way off topic though. This kinda needs its own thread. This one was for Canadian_F_H's thoughts about putting together a Sisters detachment.

 

Edit: even though about half my posts are at best tangentially related to whatever thread I'm posting in :P

[Canadian_F_H]

Heh. It's ok. I forgot what the thread was about too...lol ... the detatchment was all about the excitement anyhow...

 

I think more I keeping with an allied force.

 

A Cannoness

 

A 5-10 SoB squad with flamer, H.flamer, Combiflamer. In repressor or immolator.

 

1 other squad, also probably in immolator or repressor.

 

Really torn on what the second squad should be... they are all so interesting... I guess it depends on the force they are allied to...

[Servant of Dante]

Heh. It's ok. I forgot what the thread was about too...lol ... the detatchment was all about the excitement anyhow...

 

I think more I keeping with an allied force.

 

A Cannoness

 

A 5-10 SoB squad with flamer, H.flamer, Combiflamer. In repressor or immolator.

 

1 other squad, also probably in immolator or repressor.

 

Really torn on what the second squad should be... they are all so interesting... I guess it depends on the force they are allied to...

Remember that an Immolator has a transport capacity of 6 :)

 

In terms of value, Dominions are the single unit in our codex that does something that other codices can't (more or less). They provide a LOT of melta power for a reasonable cost and a pretty reliable delivery system.

[Beams]

That being said, a squad of H. Flamer Retributors in a repressor is the single most brutal vehicle I've ever seen. 4 (RENDING) heavy flamers means a lot of auto-hits. It can kill whatever you need it to, and it gets 4 D3 walls of death when charged.

I've used two of them, along with 3 dominions to table a genestealer player turn 2.

[Servant of Dante]

That being said, a squad of H. Flamer Retributors in a repressor is the single most brutal vehicle I've ever seen. 4 (RENDING) heavy flamers means a lot of auto-hits. It can kill whatever you need it to, and it gets 4 D3 walls of death when charged.

I've used two of them, along with 3 dominions to table a genestealer player turn 2.

And the flamer is by far my favorite weapon :P

I would run HF rets, except I usually take a command squad with 5 heavy flamers. Maybe I should reconsider against Marines . . .

[Canadian_F_H]

Rending heavy flamers are pretty cool...