Death Guard 2000pts Start over

[caprera]

Hello, this is the remade Death Guard list I want to use to recover my old models from a 1500pts base and go for 2000.

 

Most of it was already there but I liked the flavour, so I just rearranged it. I'm making it along the brand new White Scars I'm preparing at the same time.

 

Thanks for every CnC!

 

+++ Death Guard (Warhammer 30,000 - The Horus Heresy v41) (1905pts) +++

····Legiones Astartes [  XIV: Death Guard, Traitor]

····Rite of War [The Reaping]

+ HQ (175pts) +

····Legion Praetor (175pts) [Artificer Armour, Boarding Shield, Chem-munitions, Digital Lasers, Mastercraft a Single Weapon, Paragon Blade, Rad Grenades]

+ Elites (275pts) +

····Apothecarion Detachment (55pts)
······Legion Apothecary
········Additional Wargear [Artificer Armour, Chainsword/Combat Blade]

····Legion Rapier Weapons Battery (110pts)
······Legion Rapier Weapons Battery [Laser Destroyer Array]
······Legion Rapier Weapons Battery [Laser Destroyer Array]

····Legion Rapier Weapons Battery (110pts)
······Legion Rapier Weapons Battery [Laser Destroyer Array]
······Legion Rapier Weapons Battery [Laser Destroyer Array]

+ Troops (1040pts) +

····Legion Breacher Siege Squad (440pts) [Chem-munitions, 19x Legion Breacher Siege Space Marines]
······Additional Wargear [3x Flamer, Legion Vexilla]
······Legion Breacher Siege Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Bolter, Power Fist, Rad Grenades]
······Standard Wargear [boarding Shields]

····Legion Heavy Support Squad (290pts) [9x Legion Space Marines, Missile Launchers]
······Legion Sergeant [Augury Scanner]

····Legion Tactical Squad (310pts) [Chem-munitions, 19x Legion Tactical Space Marines]
······Additional Wargear [Additional Chainswords/Combat Blades, Bolters, Legion Vexilla]
······Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Heavy Chainsword, Rad Grenades]
········Combi-weapon [Combi-weapon: Flamer]

+ Heavy Support (415pts) +

····Legion Whirlwind Scorpius (115pts)

····Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon (300pts)
······Leviathan Siege Dreadnought [Armoured Ceramite, Chem-munitions, Leviathan Storm Cannon]

 

[Landrick]

Its a lot of bodies for sure, but i would think leaning more towards MSU would take you further. Have you considered taking some grav guns instead of flamers? (reaping gives you Move Through Cover).

 

Also, 2+squads are likely to just rip right through your lines... think about having to face Templars or Red Butchers.

[exsanguis]

I'd be dropping the Tacs and Breachers down to 15 men for a start. I used 2x 20 man squads for a while and they're just to cumbersome, not to mention being huge fodder for the crazy amount of AP2/3 you see in HH games. Maybe try and squeeze some grav Rapiers in with the saved points. At 2k you will most likely be seeing the odd Spartan or two and they hate grav. They also help control the enemies movement with their dangerous terrain templates.

 

Even making the Levi's gun a bombard would help with AP2. No one's Terminator death star wants to get targeted by a grav bombard!

[caprera]

Thanks for the suggestions and sorry for the late reply. Despite much free time I am striving to find the correct setup that I like.

 

In the meantime I also managed to come out with a White Scars list that really works for me in terms of taste and looks, but surely didn't help in the Death Guard progress. I am really stuck and I can't decide what to add to the basic units I already have assembled. The only thing I managed to gain some ground on is reversing the Breachers. Now they could be assembled again as normal tactical marines. In the meantime I found out I have, for no apparent reason, other bits and units at home, even a Vindicator tank!

 

I really hope this gets some attention again because I'm really at the point to give up. At least momentarily I'm constantly going back and fourth in different setups that either make me buy another 1k points of stuff or are already over the 1750/2000 pts limit I gave myself.

 

What I wanted was Death Guard, Traitor, The Reaping. Now I don't even know if to for normal battles or Zone Mortalis!

Sorry for the long post and the vent...

 

This is what I have atm, part assembled.

Legion Apothecary MKIII

Legion Rapier Weapons Battery [Laser Destroyer Array]

 

Legion Destroyer Squad [with jump packs]

Legion Heavy Support Squad [x5 Autocannons]

 

Legion Heavy Support Squad [x5 Lascannons]

 

Legion Tactical Support Squad [x5 Plasma Guns]

Legion Tactical Squad [ x14 ]

Legion Tactical Squad [ x14 ]

Legion Vindicator Siege Tank

 

TLDR;

OP is huge phagget, bought stuff for no reason, now mentally unstable rages about his incompetence, begs for help.

[Varyn]

A lot of the choices will depend on how competitive you want to play.

 

I would think about trying to get some grave wardens or deathshroud in list for more flavour, vindicators are decent too. The breachers are very expensive and I'd probably go for more tacticals, maybe 2-3 units of 15 with apothecaries, backed up with some heavy support squads.

 

The reaping is a really cool RoW, I'd also suggest looking at some other reaping lists on the forum here for inspiration 

[caprera]

Thanks, I tried already to get in some grave warden. Seemed fluffy too and good escort for the HQ . But I remain attached to the Destroyers with jump packs. I don't think I'm that much willing to be super competitive. Also I'd like to make it usable for ZM as well...

 

Since I managed to downgrade all the Breachers to normal marines I thought they could be plain and simple, footslogging.