Kais Klip Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Do we actually have a specialised anti-psyker legion, a la our modern Red Hunters in the 41st millenium? Is Adamantium Will what you need really need, or are other crunch attributes more flavourful when combating an exceptionally powefull threat? You could argue that a chainaxe to the face is all you need. Fluff wise, we don't really have a legion equivalent to the Sisters of Silence, do we? I'm not looking for Grey Knights inverted, merely trying to assertain if the threat in the lore is significant enough to 1) Warrant a specific legion to counter 2) Significant enough that we had a specific legion, but it was put down for some reason or other (IInd or the XIth). and, more interestingly: 3) What kind of attributes are favourable to combat psykers. It just seems weird that we have scatterings of power throughout the legions that are capable of combating a warp-born threat, in the form of Russ (?), Mortarion and Vulkan, and to an ideological extent, Lorgar, but nothing more concentrated. Or is it the case that given the threat "doesn't exist" by the Emperor's word, up until the Heresy, incidents like Xavyer Jubal's possession should be culled by bolter fire or, in the worst case scenario, given Silent Sister attention. Just wondering why our counters too it are based in conventional force or scattered, specialised institutions, if the warp is the Imperium's true threat, at least in 40k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327992-anti-psyker-legion-fluff-crunch/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 The Librarius initiative was created to do just that inside the legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327992-anti-psyker-legion-fluff-crunch/#findComment-4566829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Also, seeing how uncommon powerful psykers are during the great crusade and in general, it's safe to say that having a legion specialize in dealing with them would probably be overkill. That's the mean reason for the creation of the sisters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327992-anti-psyker-legion-fluff-crunch/#findComment-4566835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I think the Thunder Warriors had some super anti space voodoo installed, and they faced the worst of the psychic threats so far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327992-anti-psyker-legion-fluff-crunch/#findComment-4566848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Leman Russ was very good at countering psykers. 40k Rune Priests also specialize in denying witchfires. Maybe 30k Rune Priests will continue that trend? I've always thought it would make sense that the Emperor's executioners should be good at countering a variety of modes of warfare. So imo the closest thing we have to an anti-psyker (though not directly through the pariah gene) legion would be SW's (powerful rune priests), WS's (they have very powerful stormseers), or Salamanders (Vulkan's army-wide abilities and the overall sturdiness of mind of that legion). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327992-anti-psyker-legion-fluff-crunch/#findComment-4566856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 The firs of the First legionnaires had psychic defense installed by the E himself. I believe that is in one of the DA short stories. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327992-anti-psyker-legion-fluff-crunch/#findComment-4566861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 The firs of the First legionnaires had psychic defense installed by the E himself. I believe that is in one of the DA short stories. Angels of Caliban :) (others may mention it too) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327992-anti-psyker-legion-fluff-crunch/#findComment-4566902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 Be kind enough to write the gist of it here? Couple thousand miles away from my Angels of Caliban. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327992-anti-psyker-legion-fluff-crunch/#findComment-4566954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Death Guard are probably the most anti-psyker in the lore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327992-anti-psyker-legion-fluff-crunch/#findComment-4566999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Be kind enough to write the gist of it here? Couple thousand miles away from my Angels of Caliban. It was mentionned by Astellan, since he was one of the original "Angels of Death" (as the original "Space Marines" were known, when they still fought on Terra) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327992-anti-psyker-legion-fluff-crunch/#findComment-4567049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 There will always be sections within legions that could be used to counter Psykers, however I doubt one Legion would be better than another when it comes to tackling them. Perhaps save the Thousand Sons with their vast number of Librarians and Psykers. In the end it would come to either what tools they have been given, or how well they stand under assault. Yes, they are all legionaries and can take a good battering no matter the legion, however some are more suited as we know to taking amazing punishment and slugging through it. The Death Guard as a good example, would more than likely slug it out if it came to mass warfare against a very psyker heavy force, same with the Iron Hands, Salamanders and Iron Warriors. The Death Guard being my most familiar Legion have seen combat with perhaps a psyker heavy race during the Kajor Compliance, in which they took massive amounts of damage to cleanse them from the planet as well as The Compliance of 154-4 with the Iron Hands and Salamanders (As seen in the short story Feat of Iron) In the End, the only real tools that could be used against a Psyker force were the Bolt, modifications specifically created by the Mechanicum or given to them (as Demos Ragnok pointed out earlier), the silent sisters/blanks and Librarians before/after the Edict of Nikea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327992-anti-psyker-legion-fluff-crunch/#findComment-4567077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomMarine Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I always liked the idea of legion with the paraih gene built into the geneseed being one of the lost legions. Great in theory built in ability to shut down psychic xenos and really bad IRL a legion that every other hates naturally (side effect of paraih gene) and a primarch whose presence would emasculate the Emperor . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327992-anti-psyker-legion-fluff-crunch/#findComment-4567196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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