Darkn3ssF4lls Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 What's the best stuff to get to have a imperial city scape full of terrain this Christmas ? A couple of these ? https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Imperial-Sector Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovemberIX Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I really like the stuff by Pegasus Hobbies my table terrain is mostly from the Gothic City series. I bought two of everything and it fairly covers a 6x8 table with a few large buildings and a bunch of 2 or 3 wall "ruins" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4566941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Raeven Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I always thought GW's terrain to be too expensive for what they are worth. A corner (!) of a destroyed building has the same cost of a Bastion. If you combine the cost of 3 of these corners (so not even a complete 'building'), you could buy a fortress of redemption for the same price. November's link seems like a better deal for complete gothic building. Mantic makes some really nice modular buildings. Their Industrial line could be usefull to you. I'm quite fond of the Urban line myself. The great thing about these kits is that you can build your own terrain, LEGO-wise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4566987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teun135 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 You could always go hardcore: Hirst Arts makes some molds for casting in plaster and you could literally build entire boards of terrain with a pair of 30 dollar molds and a couple pounds of casting plaster. That is very time intensive, but probably the best bang for your buck and they have a variety of styles to choose from. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I always thought GW's terrain to be too expensive for what they are worth. A corner (!) of a destroyed building has the same cost of a Bastion. If you combine the cost of 3 of these corners (so not even a complete 'building'), you could buy a fortress of redemption for the same price. November's link seems like a better deal for complete gothic building. QFT. Too bad that Pegasus only sells to the US and Canada. Mantic makes some really nice modular buildings. Their Industrial line could be usefull to you. I'm quite fond of the Urban line myself. The great thing about these kits is that you can build your own terrain, LEGO-wise.If you do not paint the buildings baby blue their other lines work well, too. @FoxPhoenix135: If you are willing to invest the ime, wouldn't taking the stuff you have lying around (cardboard, toilet paper tubes, straws etc.) offer even better value for money? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Straws and cardboard can make cool looking stuff ... Here's some scale pics: http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee214/SW1-SWC/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdda4b894.jpg http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee214/SW1-SWC/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps4c944642.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkn3ssF4lls Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 I really like the stuff by Pegasus Hobbies my table terrain is mostly from the Gothic City series. I bought two of everything and it fairly covers a 6x8 table with a few large buildings and a bunch of 2 or 3 wall "ruins" That is some nice stuff right there I always thought GW's terrain to be too expensive for what they are worth. A corner (!) of a destroyed building has the same cost of a Bastion. If you combine the cost of 3 of these corners (so not even a complete 'building'), you could buy a fortress of redemption for the same price. November's link seems like a better deal for complete gothic building. Mantic makes some really nice modular buildings. Their Industrial line could be usefull to you. I'm quite fond of the Urban line myself. The great thing about these kits is that you can build your own terrain, LEGO-wise. oooo thats close and expensive but better bang for your buck for sure You could always go hardcore: Hirst Arts makes some molds for casting in plaster and you could literally build entire boards of terrain with a pair of 30 dollar molds and a couple pounds of casting plaster. That is very time intensive, but probably the best bang for your buck and they have a variety of styles to choose from. Thouse look great, haha though it looks like a DnD scale haha. I do want to have some kinda tribal village theme. Got to start with the hive world theme though first. I always thought GW's terrain to be too expensive for what they are worth. A corner (!) of a destroyed building has the same cost of a Bastion. If you combine the cost of 3 of these corners (so not even a complete 'building'), you could buy a fortress of redemption for the same price. November's link seems like a better deal for complete gothic building. QFT. Too bad that Pegasus only sells to the US and Canada. Mantic makes some really nice modular buildings. Their Industrial line could be usefull to you. I'm quite fond of the Urban line myself. The great thing about these kits is that you can build your own terrain, LEGO-wise.If you do not paint the buildings baby blue their other lines work well, too. @FoxPhoenix135: If you are willing to invest the ime, wouldn't taking the stuff you have lying around (cardboard, toilet paper tubes, straws etc.) offer even better value for money? That is a sick wall! haha, that puts the wall of martyrs to shame. Straws and cardboard can make cool looking stuff ... Here's some scale pics: http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee214/SW1-SWC/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdda4b894.jpg http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee214/SW1-SWC/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps4c944642.jpg If only i had the time, i'm honestly looking for something that I can put together when i have a few spare moments that looks better then say Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 If the ruin in front got a coat of (textured) paint, it could look quite decent, especially if you used arched windows instead of rectangular ones. The boxes and box copses look dreadful though. But even the trees could be improved by using a bit of foam board( if you want a hill) or MDF and some "grass" instead of the boxes as base. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 A mid point between those is Def doable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teun135 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I was going for a midpoint between time, financial investment, and quality, but if you want to go REALLY cheap, one of my first posts many years ago was on Foamcore Ruins. They are ultra-durable, I still have a bunch kicking around from that tutorial and they still see heavy use! For about 15-20 USD worth of material, you can make enough ruins to easily fill the board. As long as your wife doesn't catch you knicking the potting soil, that is :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Our group has a bunch of GW ones from our old store and they work decently, i never got on with the look of mantics tbh.These days im a big fan of Battlesystems stuff, though you just missed another kickstarter they have some of the ruins from the last one on their store: http://shop.battlesystems.co.uk/Or for Cheeeapo theres Tournament Terrain: http://www.wargamestournaments.com/shop/terrain/scifi-modern/city-fast-28mm-ruins/ Though id previously heard good things about them they stitched up a good friend on an order turning up so... Mixed... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Pretty much any material you can find in sheets a out 1/8 to 1/4 inch thick that you can comfort ably work with can be good for churning out ruins... especially if you get a simple yet decent pattern that can be assembled differently, then knock em out and modify slightly as you go along.. Once I get my hobby room cleaned out I'll Def be looking to churn out a pile of terrain... Spent toilet paper tubes looks a lot like vessel shells. I was going to make a fabrication yard with the raw material for pressure vessels stacked. Th at can easily fill a 2'x2' with some interesting arrangements so that's a start... and easy enough. Lay on side, stack a few, glue, dirt, paint I'll be using empty cans of various things for upright vessels like in a refinery. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Maybe I'm showing my age here, but I preferred it when the GW Studio terrain was scratch-built. Making your own stuff is pretty cheap, pretty easy, and looks rather less cluttered IMO. If you can track the old editions down on ebay or such, White Dwarf had quite a few articles on making your own terrain (many had templates for certain projects too). There were also a few different editions of the "Citadel How to Make Wargame Terrain" book, which you can also probably find floating about if you search for them. White Dwarft UK issue 202 even had a guide on how a crashed spaceship debris table was made by Mark Owen. Ultimately, whilst buying something off the shelf seems quicker, you'd be amazed how it takes just as long to make once you factor in assembly, basing, painting, etc. If you have something particular in mind, why not share it with us? Maybe we can point you in the direction of some helpful tutorials. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 This thread is making my creative juices going. I think it's time I resurrected my old scenery thread. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I definitely prefer player built terrain vs GW stuff... some of its nice and all but it's all way more expansive than I'm willing to ever commit to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyberos the Red Wake Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I definitely prefer player built terrain vs GW stuff... some of its nice and all but it's all way more expansive than I'm willing to ever commit to. I feel that way too. The stuff SW1 posted looks great, but what they saved in money making those, they spent a lot more in time and effort. I'm someone who has more money than time and skill, and all my effort is already spent painting actual models and improving on that, so I don't really have time to become a master terrain scratch-builder. That said, the FW and GW stuff, while super nice, is also quite a huge jump in price. I would rather pay for pre-built terrain, but not THAT much money. I prefer cheaper alternatives that still look great. A lot of startup companies sell laser cut MDF that looks good with minimal construction and painting, and there's some decent plastic modular terrain you can get from Mantic or from cheap sellers on eBay. I remember there was a Russian toy company that made modular sci-fi terrain sprues on eBay and for like $6 a sprue you could build a little modular ruin. They also sold Necromunda style stuff with stairs and tubes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 If you don't want to put as much effort in, just having something that has a repetitive pattern can look good. Even buying the GWS kits can be stretched out. The main trick is being able to cut sheet material square when you mix in kits and scratch build stuff. The main time issue is working out what you want to build and how your going to build it. For example the wall sections I showed as an example. Build one as a test takes ages. But build a tables worth knowing how it's going together takes minimal time after that especially if you are making templates. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkn3ssF4lls Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 thanks all, yea theres some good stuff on amazon i've thought about buying like Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Pegasus do about five or six different Gothic building kits (all compatible with each other). I like 'em a lot, but unfortunately they're not always especially cheap. Renedra do some small "scatter" ruins too, which are cheap. Might be worth a look? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossjk Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 how about these guys? https://www.miniaturescenery.com/CategoryPage.asp?CODE=CAT_SCI i've bought a heap of their kits and they're the perfect balance of price/quality etc... and gives that expert scratchbuilt look without nearly as much effort ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Renedra small "scatter" ruins: link I'm sure that you can find these locally for a good price (I think they are intended for various Dark Ages games and for Frostgrave). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4567912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkn3ssF4lls Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 Pegasus do about five or six different Gothic building kits (all compatible with each other). I like 'em a lot, but unfortunately they're not always especially cheap. Renedra do some small "scatter" ruins too, which are cheap. Might be worth a look? Renedra small "scatter" ruins: link I'm sure that you can find these locally for a good price (I think they are intended for various Dark Ages games and for Frostgrave). Aha! Terrain wallet gathers how about these guys? https://www.miniaturescenery.com/CategoryPage.asp?CODE=CAT_SCI i've bought a heap of their kits and they're the perfect balance of price/quality etc... and gives that expert scratchbuilt look without nearly as much effort Wow those look nice, of course my paint job will not be as nice haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4568358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I can't recommend enough getting a commission done by Green Leaf Terrain...its worth every penny. He can do whatever style you want and it'll be awesome. http://www.greenleafterrain.com/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4568381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 That looks nice. It's about what I'll be shooting for with my buildings. Simple enough, but effective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4568806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantomzero17 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I bought some Amera Plastic Future Zone pieces and just slapped Aquilas on them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327996-best-city-scape-bang-for-buck/#findComment-4572666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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