Kronos Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Hello,I was wondering if people have seconded units in their armies from other legions. think some lend better to others, and by the time of the Heresy maybe the Legions had some distrust amongst themselves. I know the major points of the heresy and some background information here and there. But haven't read black library in depth, the only instance I'm certain of is Argel Tal and the World Eaters.I'd like to hear about seconded from other Legions, whether they be from Canon or own created background. Heresy, or pre. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328037-seconded-units/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomMarine Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 We have WE apocatharies training with fabius to hot house Marines. Libarius secondments* from the TS to most legions and the chaplain edict WB in most legions Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328037-seconded-units/#findComment-4568607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 During the Great Crusade, many up-and-coming commanders would cross-train with other Legions, as would entire squads. It was so they could learn their allies' style of warfare. It also, unfortunately, lead to the Word Bearers easily slipping the concept of the lodges into so many Legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328037-seconded-units/#findComment-4568677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol_Invictus Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I don't know if they really fit what you are thinking of but the Space Wolves sent out the watch packs to a bunch of the legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328037-seconded-units/#findComment-4568702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronos Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 I don't know if they really fit what you are thinking of but the Space Wolves sent out the watch packs to a bunch of the legions. Not precisely, although that is an interesting bit of fluff of the unease the Heresy created. I was thinking more along the lines of specialist units, entire formations or even chapters/companys that would have been sent to fight alongside a particular legion as part of a campaign during the Heresy. I know the Death Guard and Sons of Horus formed a strong alliance, so I ould see the two having elements of both. But, were there particular units or known personae that had been sent as either training, or for mutual reasons. Like a unit of Imperial fists that were under the direct command of Corax for a large part of the Heresy (as an example). I'd quite like the idea of a unit of Raven Guard Mor Dethyn, seconded to better teach Space Wolf Recon squads the arts of subterfuge and reconnaissance. More so for the links of Wolves and Ravens than any other. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328037-seconded-units/#findComment-4568883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Khan Torghun of the White Scars was seconded to the Luna Wolves, referenced in the novel Scars. Captain Saul Tarvis of the Emperor's Children went to the Death Guard, I think. The loyalist core from the traitor legions seemed to fight with each other often- Garro and Tarvis mentioned this, as did Loken. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328037-seconded-units/#findComment-4568905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 The Thousand Sons did secondments. Pretty much all the commanders did from what I remember. It's a really interesting topic actually, because it's really good justification for allies. A little detachment of seconded Astartes adss a lot of character. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328037-seconded-units/#findComment-4568956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 As long as you come up with background, the crusade era lends itself to almost any possibility for cross legion fraternisation, save a handful of circumstances (ex: I can't see the Death Guard playing host to the witches of the 1000 Sons... ever). I believe in the audio drama Butcher's Nails, it mentions the fighting pits of the World Eaters, and how there were several "regulars" who spent time in them - Sigismund of the VII, Amit of the IX, as well as Argel Tal. When the legions war for several centuries, there is plenty of room for detachments that are in character. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328037-seconded-units/#findComment-4569079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Massacre had a great crusade campaign which started with a Thousand Sons diplomatic honour guard psychically detecting treachery by the non-Imperials. The war effort was taken over by the Ultramarines, and then the Iron Hands and Emperor's Children under Ferrus, but the Thousand Sons detachment could well have stuck around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328037-seconded-units/#findComment-4569221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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