Forward Assist Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Just got to the description of the Eternity Gate, a splendidly well done rendition of the classic artwork from the old Codex Imperialis into text ADB. Brought the image fresh to mind, even though I haven't seen that picture for the better part of a decade. Edited to add: is that a white/blue dress reference a few pages on? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Bought the ebook. Here we go! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBadweed Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I'm more than halfway through. ADB managed to insert CHOOOOM verbatim in the text. 'Nuff Said Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Ok, just so I don't proceed like a big dumb idiot, donthe sisters of silence run the show and the Cuatodians are their muscle? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Assist Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 They could be described as silent partners? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 The dynamics between the different factions are great Poor Zephyon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I know none of this stuff is 'new' but I feel like I've been reading much of the background wrong before this book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carach Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 i knew this thread would come. not getting the book until Christmas - it's killing me. Time to go off-grid from B&C until new year heh Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I've read the first few chapters, 20% in so far. What a way to start a cold saturday. There's so much gravitas in everything that has happened so far, even if most of it is just setting the stage for the rest of the book. I don't think I've ever seen a servitor's "death" in such impressive detail either. If this holds up I can definitely see why Laurie would call this AD-B's best. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Just finished it. I really can't say anything. Unexpected ending for Ra. My favourite moments were the insight into the Emperor's mind and behaviour. The way he sees the primarchs, his plan, the way he exemplifies Ra his decisions and the path he choose with the cliff and the ocean. Arkham gave me a Sheldon vibe. I could only imagine the Emperor last fight as an anime lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izlude Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Wow u read it already!?! Still waiting for my hardcopy although tempted to get ebook too ha. I have a horrible tendency to let the book sit there on my desk admiring the cover and finding the perfect time to read it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I woke up 3 am, had 2 flights and lot of time waiting in between. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster The Lobster Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 About half way into the book. So far I really enjoy it. So far one of the most intriguing parts is the discussion of loyalty, and what you are loyal for. The Imperium or the Emperor himself. It got me thinking about the traitor primarch who fell had a stronger reletionship towards the Emperor, either as a person or is ideology for mankind. And the loyal sons, at least to me seems to have a stronger tie to the Imperium, or mankind as a whole. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Assist Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Spoiler free. Finished it a little earlier. It's simply very, very good and a great pleasure to read. To me, the best parts of the storytelling of the Heresy are when we get to see the untold parts of the setting for a the first time and how different the world is to what comes after. This novel has that in spades. For example, the long pilgrimage to the Eternity Gate had the same sense of disquiet and wonder as the Fellowship's wandering across Middle Earth in LotR. Between this and ADB's Talon of Horus, it feels like he's carved himself a niche in the setting similar to the Dan-iverse, creating something both deeply a part of and distinctly apart from the main setting. The way the warp and daemon-kind are described remains the most interesting take on it in I've seen. Same-same, ADB's description of the webway, of the Silent Sisters, and the visions of the Emperor - all things as an audience we have waited years to read about - are done justice in a way that made the waiting pay off. The Emperor's portrayal - as the Omnissiah, the Master of Mankind, as a cold tyrant - was balanced well. The character had the depth such an important figure in the setting deserved but didn't get pinned down in a definitive way; he was left enough room to be both all the versions of him that we've seen before and none of them. This literary flexibility didn't feel like a cop-out; it gives us the audience room to find our own views (which doubtless we'll do this in thread quite vigorously). And, above all, the MDRC got it's CHOOM! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Just got to the end of part one and the reveal of... Drach'nyen ...which was very much an 'oooooooh!' moment. WUT ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSwordmaster Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I got the first couple of chapters done and already loving it so far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Just got to the end of part one and the reveal of... Drach'nyen ...which was very much an 'oooooooh!' moment. WUT ? I had the same reaction Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old-Four-Arms Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 About half way into the book. So far I really enjoy it. So far one of the most intriguing parts is the discussion of loyalty, and what you are loyal for. The Imperium or the Emperor himself. It got me thinking about the traitor primarch who fell had a stronger reletionship towards the Emperor, either as a person or is ideology for mankind. And the loyal sons, at least to me seems to have a stronger tie to the Imperium, or mankind as a whole. Comment not directly related to the book (still waiting for my copy - grmbl). My apologies if considered off-topic. In the fluff of the old Epic game, the Loyalist battle cry was "For The Emperor", whereas the Traitors proclaimed "For Horus and Humanity". That would indicate that they (at least some of them) truly believed that Horus would be a more benevolent Emperor. Old-Four-Arms Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 Excitement Intensifies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 When's the book out? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never_born Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 My review is up if anyone fancies a look. Spoiler free... https://trackofwords.wordpress.com/2016/11/26/the-master-of-mankind-aaron-dembski-bowden/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDarth151 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I'm both glad and sad that I don't have the money to buy the book at the moment. Sad because I want to read it and form my own opinion. Glad because everything I heard about it points towards me being disappointed by it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 What was your expectation though? That the E would be shown as some golden perfect leader? From what I've gleaned so far, nothing has changed, he continues to be many things from many perspectives. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 What was your expectation though? That the E would be shown as some golden perfect leader? From what I've gleaned so far, nothing has changed, he continues to be many things from many perspectives. Don't engage him, he literally shows up to :cuss on ADB then leaves for weeks at a time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 About half way into the book. So far I really enjoy it. So far one of the most intriguing parts is the discussion of loyalty, and what you are loyal for. The Imperium or the Emperor himself. It got me thinking about the traitor primarch who fell had a stronger reletionship towards the Emperor, either as a person or is ideology for mankind. And the loyal sons, at least to me seems to have a stronger tie to the Imperium, or mankind as a whole. Comment not directly related to the book (still waiting for my copy - grmbl). My apologies if considered off-topic. In the fluff of the old Epic game, the Loyalist battle cry was "For The Emperor", whereas the Traitors proclaimed "For Horus and Humanity". That would indicate that they (at least some of them) truly believed that Horus would be a more benevolent Emperor. Old-Four-Arms They have definitely made it clear the Emperor didn't particularly care for the Primarchs or space marines. Even the ones that stay loyal he has no love for. It's a necessary evolution, but at the same time this guy would not take the time to talk to as many individual space marines as he does in other novels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328184-master-of-mankind-review-or-spoilers/page/2/#findComment-4573769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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