foamy248 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Hey all, I may purchase the BoP box set, and I'm pondering whether I should attempt to convert Assault Marines out of some of the tactical in the box. I have some sanguinary guard jump-packs which I could use, but I would need bolt pistols and chainswords. So, does anyone know if the box contains chain swords/bolt pistols? If so, how many? And how feasible would it be to convert the Assault Marines. Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 There is one bolt pistol and chainsword arm set per 10 marines... aka, there are 3 of each. But there are bits for other ccw, so vanguard vets and sgts are also plausible. And if you want 1 or 2 of your ASM to have a flamer or melta gun that also mitigates your need for ccw arms... nicely your melta or flamer dude can still have a nice bolt pistol and chainsword holstered on the model. So example. 5 man assault squad... 2 meltaguns Sgt with lightning claw 2 ASM with ccw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4574152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 As far as lore goes, there are no MkIII jump troops since the armor is too front heavy to be used with jump packs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4574178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 There is one bolt pistol and chainsword arm set per 10 marines... aka, there are 3 of each. But there are bits for other ccw, so vanguard vets and sgts are also plausible. And if you want 1 or 2 of your ASM to have a flamer or melta gun that also mitigates your need for ccw arms... nicely your melta or flamer dude can still have a nice bolt pistol and chainsword holstered on the model. So example. 5 man assault squad... 2 meltaguns Sgt with lightning claw 2 ASM with ccw. Yeah, I was thinking more of HH 10 man squads, so I think I'll have to get some more chainswords/boltpistols then. Thanks for the info As far as lore goes, there are no MkIII jump troops since the armor is too front heavy to be used with jump packs. I'm most likely going to use other Mk IV and Sang. Guard bits to make them more... aerodynamic. Probably. Do you think this would work? Or is Mk III just too bulky to be on Assault Marines? Even in isolated pieces? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4574193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Where is it confirmed that Mk III is too heavy for jump packs? I keep seeing people mention that but I've never heard a source. I would think the additional armor would make it very effective for frontal assaults, but perhaps not easy on the jump packs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4574213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I could have sworn it was more of a "not preffered and thus rarely, due to..." as opposed to a " never ever because..." But what evs... I'm using them for black templars crusaders for 40k... and also maybe iron warriors in 40k... and some imperial fists for 40k... I have a problem... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4574219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 there are 6 holstered bolt pistols and 10 sheathed chainswords per 10 guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4574224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 Eh, this is the 31st/41st millennium(s). Technology has probably advanced to a sufficient level that military grade jet-packs can at least carry space marines, heavy armour and equipment, I'd imagine. The extra plating of Mk III wouldn't add THAT much weight on, right? It'd look cool, anyway. Black Cohort - Thanks. I guess I could make a few have holstered pistols. That would be fine in terms of WYSIWYG, right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4574225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Eh, this is the 31st/41st millennium(s). Technology has probably advanced to a sufficient level that military grade jet-packs can at least carry space marines, heavy armour and equipment, I'd imagine. The extra plating of Mk III wouldn't add THAT much weight on, right? It'd look cool, anyway. Black Cohort - Thanks. I guess I could make a few have holstered pistols. That would be fine in terms of WYSIWYG, right? Technically you don't need anything that the standard squad member has modeled, since the default assumption is they have that gear. It is really easy to make a tactical squad with an extra close combat weapon with either BoC or BoP, assault marines somewhat harder. There is no reason you can't use chainsword/ bolt pistol bits from other kits, I know I have plenty of spares for other kits in my bits box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4574230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 Technically you don't need anything that the standard squad member has modeled, since the default assumption is they have that gear. It is really easy to make a tactical squad with an extra close combat weapon with either BoC or BoP, assault marines somewhat harder. There is no reason you can't use chainsword/ bolt pistol bits from other kits, I know I have plenty of spares for other kits in my bits box. Yeah, I'll probs just use bolt pistols from other kits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4574245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 You can make plenty of chainsword hands. It's the bolt pistols that you may have trouble with. I had 10 tigrus bolters left over from BaC. You can cut out the middle part, between the magazine and the back of the front sight, to turn them into bolt pistols pretty easily. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4574260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 Thanks Nusquam! I'll give this a try; it looks pretty easy (hopefully). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4574261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 It is, just cut the chainsword handle at an angle, dont cut it flat off by the engine, and line it up with the bolter grip. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4574262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyTheOne Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 What would be the best kit to get 10 arms with bolt pistols in order to make a Mk III assault squad? I'm looking at making one also. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4575259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare84 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 not the cheapest but could go with chain axe set from Forgeworld. 3rd party companies probably have cheaper versions though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4575263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 There actually are mkIII assault marines. The ashen circle for Word Bearers have mkIII armor, though it might be a modified variant of mkIII. Still proof enough to me that if you wanted to make a mkIII assault unit, it can be done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4575264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macabre Slanneshi Prince Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 You can make plenty of chainsword hands. It's the bolt pistols that you may have trouble with. I had 10 tigrus bolters left over from BaC. You can cut out the middle part, between the magazine and the back of the front sight, to turn them into bolt pistols pretty easily. Do you just ignore the chunk taken out of the back of the chainsword for the space marine's butt plate? Or do you know of some way to fill it in? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4575356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Conrad Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I'm attempting a similar thing just without jetpacks. The trouble for me is that there is a very limited amount of arms for chainswords that match the mkiii armour, which the arms for is rather unique. Has anyone found a good alternative for mkiii arms or is the only way through forgeworld or additional BoP sets? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4575416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 snip You can make plenty of chainsword hands. It's the bolt pistols that you may have trouble with. I had 10 tigrus bolters left over from BaC. You can cut out the middle part, between the magazine and the back of the front sight, to turn them into bolt pistols pretty easily. Do you just ignore the chunk taken out of the back of the chainsword for the space marine's butt plate? Or do you know of some way to fill it in? a dab o' greenstuff Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328213-assault-marines-from-bop/#findComment-4575952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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